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Boulder Dash (Japan) part 1
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2002 9:13 pm
by destructor
In Boulder Dash japan version extra lives are after 200 diamonds (world version after 400). I submit my inp to MARP(japan part1). This inp isn't finished (I press ESC) because I do leeching on stage 3-4 where is 189 diamonds
(extra life after 200). I enter to stage 3-4 with 16 lives
Then to my total death I must play 290 times * 2 minuts (time on stage 3-4) = 580 minuts(9,6 hours)
In dipswitches isn't switch to set number of diamonds to gain extra lives.
I think special rules are needed to japan Boulder Dash part 1, but I don't know what special rules.
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 6:00 am
by wuzel
Worldwide manifestation : SAY NO 2 L33CHERS
lol
PS: merry christmas brachu - wszystkiego najdluzszego
Re: Boulder Dash (Japan) part 1
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 7:14 am
by Blost
destructor wrote:In Boulder Dash japan version extra lives are after 200 diamonds (world version after 400). I submit my inp to MARP(japan part1). This inp isn't finished (I press ESC) because I do leeching on stage 3-4 where is 189 diamonds
(extra life after 200). I enter to stage 3-4 with 16 lives
Then to my total death I must play 290 times * 2 minuts (time on stage 3-4) = 580 minuts(9,6 hours)
In dipswitches isn't switch to set number of diamonds to gain extra lives.
I think special rules are needed to japan Boulder Dash part 1, but I don't know what special rules.
Why am i not that surprised from a poleech player
Well, this has already been discussed on the old message board, but i can't seem to find any traces of it while searching.
Anyway, we agree not to leech at this level (there's another leeching spot in part2 also) but there were no "special rules" links at this time....
Edit : found the old threads at last.
see there:
viewtopic.php?t=7497&highlight=bould%2A
viewtopic.php?t=7552&highlight=bould%2A
viewtopic.php?t=7630&highlight=bould%2A
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 11:53 pm
by Donut
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2001 10:00 am Post subject: Boulderdash voting time
OK - hearing all debate from all of the boulderdash competitors, we will vote on three motions.
1. To ban the leeching of world 3-4 from the Boulderdash Japan romset. I vote aye here.
2. To ban the leeching of world 3-4 from the Boulderdash US set. I vote no here because the extra life constant is much higher (400) than the Japan set (200).
3. To allocate for special MARP scoring adding 100,000 points for any extra lives remaining. I will abstain from this vote.
If I have the world incorrect, my apologies, but I think you know what world I'm talking about
All in favor of one motion or another will signify by saying "aye", specifying which motion you are voting for. All opposed to one motion or another will signify by saying "no", specifying which motion you are voting for. Pursuant to the MARP standing rules, this is a seven-day vote that will expire September 14 at 2359 GMT. GB9
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goldengameboy@yahoo.com
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2001 10:00 am
On these votes (sorry for my lateness):
1. The ayes are 7, the nays are 0. The motion carries and this
leeching is banned.
2. The ayes are 5, the nays are 2. The motion carries and this
leeching is also banned.
3. The ayes are 0, the nays are 6. This motion is lost.
I will carry out the two passed motions. GB9
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goldengameboy@yahoo.com
Because of this vote (on part 2) I move to have the inp at
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/dtr_boul ... _win62.zip edited to zero.
Donut
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2002 7:34 am
by destructor
OK. I delete my inps. But write about banned techniques in special rules will be useful, because I don't know about this voting when I play on Boulder Dash.
RE
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2002 11:52 am
by QRS
Yeah I agree with that. The special rules has to be uptated on a lot of games.
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2002 2:31 pm
by Barthax
Perhaps it may be an idea to add links to online translators for the special rules?
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 8:37 am
by Francois Daniel
And I think, if an inp broke a Special Rule not wroted for a game, this inp don't be deleted. We can't dream an old Special Rule if it's not writed. A rule must be easy to find by all.
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 8:50 am
by Frankie
Francois Daniel wrote:And I think, if an inp broke a Special Rule not wroted for a game, this inp don't be deleted. We can't dream an old Special Rule if it's not writed. A rule must be easy to find by all.
So for new games, the first players who find bugs and leeching methods can use them because there was no Special Rules link made because no one knew about the bug and the leeching method? I think not, when a Special Rule is made, all already uploaded recordings breaking those rules will be zeroed
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 9:36 am
by Phil Lamat
Ok I will edit the special rules link soon, as the leeching technic has been banned by vote
But just before, I have an idea which could avoid leeching and reward skillful inputs :
if game is finished, we could add a special bonus which would be (10-nb lifes lost)x1000000
What do you think ?
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 5:39 pm
by destructor
If bonus on finish, I think number lifes x 100000, not (10-nb lifes lost)x1000000, because number conquered lives is important too (depend from collect diamonds, collect hidden extra lives).
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2002 8:57 am
by destructor
I think that special rules "play only first 5 lives" is good idea. Then can leeching etc., but after lost 5 lives press ESC.
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 12:17 am
by Francois Daniel
In any case, I prefer the '5 lives only' rule than a rule who break the real scoring system.
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2003 2:27 pm
by destructor
I think it's time to poll vote.
My proposal is (number life after finish game) * 1000000 and banned leeching on stage 3-2 in part2, or(10-nb lost life)*1000000.
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:20 pm
by Phil Lamat
I still prefer special bonus = (10-nb lifes lost)x1000000 if game is finished
Advantages:
I think a good player at this game can easily beat the game in 1 life, which would add 10millions to real score ... not a big change to real scoring, François, it means only adding a "1" behind the real score ; and it both prevents us from leeching and allow us to watch inputs beating this puzzle game in 1 life ; and to improve future hiscores, the only thing to do (the more exciting on this type of games IMO) would be to find the best way to complete each stage for more points but/and WITHOUT LEECHING