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ThunderForce AC (Bootleg) romname: tfrceacb
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:33 pm
by kfx
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2002 8:30 pm
by roncli
Same here.
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2002 12:34 pm
by Chad
this one played back fine for me cli XP with sound, started out fs0 but when it got far enough i cranked off the throttle and went to 2Mil easy. ooops wait i'm talking about the 2,288,590 score, i'll try the other one...
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2002 6:37 pm
by Kale
Playbacks fine for me in DMAME .61 sound on and even in fskip 11 + throttle.
Ah forgot one thing:add this file into your tfrceacb zipfile,it's a "redump" of the sound rom 2.bin,maybe that's the cause...
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2002 6:50 pm
by kfx
The new rom did the trick, playsback fine now.
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 1:05 am
by roncli
You know, as much as I would love to use that, I think it should wait until it becomes an official part of that ROMset for MAME. Not everyone's going to have the sound redump available.
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 4:06 am
by mahlemiut
Heh, I bet the ROM is the same on all the versions.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 8:16 am
by Kale
mahlemiut wrote:Heh, I bet the ROM is the same on all the versions.

After all it's a simple bootleg;they splitted up the ic4.bin into two parts for cheaper price.You won the bet

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 3:06 pm
by roncli
If you guys (Chad, Barry) say it's okay to use the sound redump and confirm it, then let's confirm it. Otherwise Kale will need to rerecord. Just let us know which it is.

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 4:13 pm
by mahlemiut
I really don't see how a sample ROM is going to affect playback, unless it is accessible by the main program, and as far as I know, only some Konami games do that (to check it's CRC).
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 9:08 pm
by Chad
yeah i get 272k with this one, and it's not the rom (since i think these two clones use the same rom and i played back the 2.28 mil fine but the 2.27 mil doesnt get passsed 300k)
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 11:48 pm
by roncli
Right, he probably only used that ROM for the one clone.
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 12:28 am
by Chad
oh i can see that. barry's always wants to believe mame works more than it doesn't

I kind of agree with him on one hand since there's nothing in the code that would tend to give a different seed based on the checksums of the roms, but on the bigger hand there's a lot of unexplainable things with windows machines...
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 7:12 am
by Kale
roncli wrote:If you guys (Chad, Barry) say it's okay to use the sound redump and confirm it, then let's confirm it. Otherwise Kale will need to rerecord. Just let us know which it is.

Are you saying that I'm gonna rerecord that one because I've not used a NO GOOD DUMP KNOWN,which couldn't let all people to playback that,with a sample rom which doesn't do any difference on the gameplay,only on the seeds (which I didn't even know that)?
I'm hearing from when I was child the scratchy DAC sound of Techno Soft,and I don't like to rehear it again,and I don't want to remove the 2.bin because somebody is lazy...
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 12:00 pm
by roncli
Kale wrote:Are you saying that I'm gonna rerecord that one...
I don't know. Ask the editors.

Not my call to make.