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roncli's mspacman recording

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2002 11:19 am
by gameboy9
I'm afraid I can't confirm this one:

a. It uses invalid DIP settings (you must use the champion edition (untraditional mazes) by default, you used super lola gal (traditional mazes))

b. You also used the speedup cheat. I think that's down the lines of the game having to be split. Hopefully Pat will do the honors, please. :)

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2002 9:45 pm
by ***PL***
Added the following games:

• mschamp-fast "Ms. Pacman Champion Edition / Super Zola Pac Gal [with speedup cheat]"
• mspacmab-fast "Ms. Pac-Man (bootleg) [with speedup cheat]"
• mspacmat-fast "Ms. Pac Attack [with speedup cheat]"

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2002 10:39 am
by gameboy9
Thanks Pat, you're a good person, I don't care what BBH says. 8)

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2002 10:44 pm
by gameboy9
ummm... I was just having fun bud. It's a common family joke. I guess MARP doesn't get it - my bad... again. :(

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2002 10:52 pm
by BBH
gameboy9 wrote:ummm... I was just having fun bud. It's a common family joke. I guess MARP doesn't get it - my bad... again. :(
Uhhhhhh..... yeah. I just don't get why I was the butt of the joke, it actually got me wondering if I'd said something I shouldn't have. :oops:

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2002 10:55 pm
by gameboy9
nah - you're innocent. I'm guilty. The end. Or is it the beginning? Only time will tell I guess in our next episode!

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 10:00 pm
by Phil Lamat
Where is speed-up cheat in "mschamp" ??
It looks like this game is naturally speed up

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 10:09 pm
by sikraiken
Yea I know. It can't really be any faster than it already is...can it? :)

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 10:36 pm
by gameboy9
oop - you're right. Sorry Pat - throw out the speedup cheat for that one.

But there's still the issue of using incorrect DIP settings.

Suggestion

Posted: Tue May 07, 2002 7:26 pm
by roncli
Sorry, I've been away on family business, otherwise I would've read this sooner.

The DIP switch setting that was changed was "Game", it is set at "Super Zola Pac Gal" in my recording. The difference is that in the Champion Edition, you have the new boards in a different order, and in the Super Zola Pac Gal version is basically the normal Ms. Pac Man game. Both games are timed (1 minute) and by default move at "Speedup cheat" or faster. (I haven't figured out why Ms. Pac Man is approximately "Speedup cheat" speed sometimes, and "Way beyond speedup cheat" speed others, but that's another topic for another time.) They are essentially two separate games. The two versions have a different maze set altogether, and is different from other clones because of both the speed increase and the timer (I almost blew it on the 10th level of the recording in question! :)).

Thus, I'd like to propose to split mschamp.

mschamp-champ - Ms. Pacman Champion Edition / Super Zola Pac Gal [Champion Edition] - Default settings
mschamp-zola - Ms. Pacman Champion Edition / Super Zola Pac Gal [Super Zola Pac Gal] - Game DIP Switch set to Super Zola Pac Gal

My recording would then go under mschamp-zola, while existing recordings (along with one I'll be making in the near future ;) [edit]240K! :)[/edit]) would go under mschamp-champ.

mschamp-fast is not needed, because there is no speedup dip switch. I can't speak for the other two games off the top of my head, I'd have to scour those roms when I get home from work.

Thanx for bringing this up, GB, I was unaware what "default settings" were, and probably had already changed the DIP switch long before I discovered MARP.

mschamp split will not be allowed

Posted: Wed May 08, 2002 12:55 am
by ***PL***
I am going to have to deny your request to split mschamp for the following reasons:

- I really don't think we should start splitting games based on dip switch settings. This is not intuitive and makes an unnecessary exception.

- If mschamp actually presented a selection screen: Champ Edition & Super Zola Pac Gal, then it would be OK, but it DOES NOT

- People are more likely to play the default game and not the "other" option. Furthermore, if Zola is just like Ms. Pacman, play the REAL one instead!

Was worth a shot

Posted: Wed May 08, 2002 1:56 am
by roncli
It was a proposal more than it was a request, and I did outline the two main differences between Zola & the regular version. But no problem, I can move the existing recording to the deleted bin and upload the one I made tonight under default settings. Thanx for looking into it. :)