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hi all!
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in answer to a question about bypassing the DECO system startup,
some people said that to press F10 (to unthrottle your computer and let it run at full speed) could be 'illegal' !??!!

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well, i press F10 in quite a lot of games, to speed up things after i lose a life, or to bypass the 'this game legal only in such'n'such countries' screen...
so far i didn't encounter any problems re: playbackability (nice word ;] )

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so, what's the official opinion about this ?
oliver

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grand_leader@earthling.net

i don't think the F10 key is dangerous in terms of cheating? or for
playbackability (using frameskip or not to record doesn't appear to
make a difference in playing back only when playing back sometimes
fs=0 is needed), but the issue is it's not those; it's that F10 isn't
a true arcade experience. weather or not people get bored/impatient
waiting for things to happen (levels to clear, roms to load); there
wasn't an F10 key in the arcades. i personally don't mind it as long
as the recording will playback at normal speed. But i believe
recordings have been dqed in tournaments for using F10.

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churritz@cts.com

Mr Do! is a case in point here. The current marp high score for the
parent rom set is over 6 million which I estimate would take over 4
hours to get in the arcades. If it wasn't for those damn
intermissions (4 out of every 10 scenes plus one more for each extra
man) then the total time could be reduced to nearer 3 hours. A
similar argument can be used for other games, eg. Bombjack. The use
of speed throttling through the intermissions would therefore be a
great help in reducing the total time for a marathon game.

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Personally I would frown on the use of speed throttling or the use of
pause because as Chad says, it was not available in the arcades.
Besides I would not feel satisfied that a score is genuine if I used
either technique. Just make sure that you're comfortable and have an
empty bladder before starting a marathon recording on MAME just as
you would if in an arcade otherwise what's to stop you leaving your
machine on pause overnight and stretching a game over a few days or
weeks, that's just ridiculous.

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garyjlee@hotmail.com

I do have an issue with hitting F10 during a game... I don't with
hitting it before a game starts, unless it affects
recording/verification somehow. You didn't have to be in the arcade
for the machine startup, generally. Unless you were a hardcore, that
is.

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Beejay: I tried Hero back at the start of this year and didn't like
it much. Always feel claustrophobic in those 'one-wrong-path-choice-
and-you're-dead' games, and don't find them much fun. Then again, I'm
probably just too lazy to learn patterns.

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Right now I'd like to try and watch Vaz's Operation: Wolf .inp to see
how the heck he got past the second cycle, but I haven't had any luck
with the playback. Can anyone else see this one?

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qan@home.com