An issue has been raised regarding the timestamp of INP files. Is it illegal to accumulate a bunch of recordings (say over a period of weeks/months) and then upload them all at once?
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For all tourneys we require INPs to be submitted within 2 days (48 hours). Should this same rule also apply to game recordings submitted to REGULAR MARP?
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My thought is no change to this rule. Now let's here your opinions!
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Please vote! MARP Rule change proposal...
Moderator: Chad
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Just to be clear, the tourney rule won't change. The question is
whether to introduce this as a rule to REGULAR MARP...
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whether to introduce this as a rule to REGULAR MARP...
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Barry Rodewald
I personally don't see how submitting a 4 month old inp is a
problem. It's no different than one that was submitted four months
ago. Otherwise, we might as well purge all recordings over a couple
of months old... don't see that happening, do you?
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I vote for no change.
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bsr@hnpl.net
problem. It's no different than one that was submitted four months
ago. Otherwise, we might as well purge all recordings over a couple
of months old... don't see that happening, do you?
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I vote for no change.
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bsr@hnpl.net
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BBH
There's absolutely no reason to ban .inps that are older than their
submission date... whenever a person wants to upload it, that's their
business... as long as it plays back with the specified version, I
don't see what the problem is.
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-BBH
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lordbbh@aol.com
submission date... whenever a person wants to upload it, that's their
business... as long as it plays back with the specified version, I
don't see what the problem is.
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-BBH
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BeeJay
Given that there is no time limit in which to respond to a recording
who really cares how long ago it was made as long as it plays back
with the version it was recorded with.
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In the good old days it was always interesting to see someone upload
a whole lot of new scores to reclaim 1st place..... of course with
the current lead that Matt has it's not likely to have that affect
again for some time.
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BeeJay.
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mamester@i4free.co.nz
who really cares how long ago it was made as long as it plays back
with the version it was recorded with.
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In the good old days it was always interesting to see someone upload
a whole lot of new scores to reclaim 1st place..... of course with
the current lead that Matt has it's not likely to have that affect
again for some time.
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BeeJay.
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Tommi
When you compete on a game with someone, it's irritating if he holds
hes submissions long after you've finished playing the game. Then
suddenly, bang! You're dead. This seems a bit unfair approach to
competition. That is the only reasoning I can see behind this Rule
change.
Anyway he could make a clean kill by just playing a month, and after
that starting to record inps, how can you fight that?
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I wouldn't like to check timestamps on my recordings, neither anyone
elses. +I don't have internet connection availeble all the time. Keep
it as it is.
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Pat, a good rule vote would be to change leaderboard. Seems that
everyone agrees lb doesn't currently have anything to do with playing
skills. This "compound -15%" sucks, you get points even if youre
20th...or more.
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I had a thought that 10,3,1 x percentage(average)would be nice: but
that would lead to deleting scores that you're proud of(but lower
your average).
How about current points X average??
Or maybe like: Current system, but 1.) increasing 15% for example to
40% 2.)Give no points for places under 3!!!!
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Then again back to 10,3,1 could be ok
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Gotta go, haven't played mame for a week...
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hes submissions long after you've finished playing the game. Then
suddenly, bang! You're dead. This seems a bit unfair approach to
competition. That is the only reasoning I can see behind this Rule
change.
Anyway he could make a clean kill by just playing a month, and after
that starting to record inps, how can you fight that?
<p>
I wouldn't like to check timestamps on my recordings, neither anyone
elses. +I don't have internet connection availeble all the time. Keep
it as it is.
<p>
Pat, a good rule vote would be to change leaderboard. Seems that
everyone agrees lb doesn't currently have anything to do with playing
skills. This "compound -15%" sucks, you get points even if youre
20th...or more.
<p>
I had a thought that 10,3,1 x percentage(average)would be nice: but
that would lead to deleting scores that you're proud of(but lower
your average).
How about current points X average??
Or maybe like: Current system, but 1.) increasing 15% for example to
40% 2.)Give no points for places under 3!!!!
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Then again back to 10,3,1 could be ok
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Gotta go, haven't played mame for a week...
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tiihoto@hotmail.com
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Brian McLean
There's no reason to delete a person's recording if there's a lag
between when they played and when they submit. It might be irritating
to the other player, as Tommi said, but that's just tough. I haven't
found a game yet where a few plays after a long absence didn't bring
back those old skills, and often a few new ones.
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Brian
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between when they played and when they submit. It might be irritating
to the other player, as Tommi said, but that's just tough. I haven't
found a game yet where a few plays after a long absence didn't bring
back those old skills, and often a few new ones.
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Brian
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bmclean84@hotmail.com
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JLr
What´s the diference if I send one record today,tomorow or next
week. The inp no change, in tounament that´s ok. but in regular marp
this is no necessary. my vote is for change this rule. my opnion is
that the peoples send your inp in one month to send the inp. 48 hours
is a little time.
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jlnovaes@unb.br
week. The inp no change, in tounament that´s ok. but in regular marp
this is no necessary. my vote is for change this rule. my opnion is
that the peoples send your inp in one month to send the inp. 48 hours
is a little time.
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Frankie
Let's keep it as it is. It doesn't matter how old the recording is in
my opinion.
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About all this leaderboard talk. Many months ago (in Mirc) I
suggested to have 3 leaderboards. One with the points, one with the
average and an overall leaderboard made out of both those other
leaderboards. I would suggest giving points to the top 100 on both
charts, like 100,99,98 aso. This would probably put BBH on top of the
overall leaderboard with 200 points and would show who's the best
overall players. That way crap players like me (call me lamer if you
like) can enjoy and upload my personal best in all games I like.
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It's just an idea, but I think it would solve the problem. Players
can decide themself what they want to go for, many points, good
average or the ultimate combination of both.
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Of course there had to be some rules regarding the average
leaderboard, that you won't enter it before you've made a certain
number of uploads. Otherwise a player could make one unbeatable first
place and be on top with 100%.
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I think it would be worth thinking about this idea.
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What's you guys opinion on this?
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Bye.
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frankie@image.dk
my opinion.
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About all this leaderboard talk. Many months ago (in Mirc) I
suggested to have 3 leaderboards. One with the points, one with the
average and an overall leaderboard made out of both those other
leaderboards. I would suggest giving points to the top 100 on both
charts, like 100,99,98 aso. This would probably put BBH on top of the
overall leaderboard with 200 points and would show who's the best
overall players. That way crap players like me (call me lamer if you
like) can enjoy and upload my personal best in all games I like.
<p>
It's just an idea, but I think it would solve the problem. Players
can decide themself what they want to go for, many points, good
average or the ultimate combination of both.
<p>
Of course there had to be some rules regarding the average
leaderboard, that you won't enter it before you've made a certain
number of uploads. Otherwise a player could make one unbeatable first
place and be on top with 100%.
<p>
I think it would be worth thinking about this idea.
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What's you guys opinion on this?
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Bye.
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frankie@image.dk
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Chad
Keeping it as it is for tournament and regulation makes sense. In a
tournament you are denied surprising someone else by uploading a
bunch of old recordings in the last few days of the deadline because
that isn't fair to other players who could beat those scores if they
have the time to play (between when the recording was made and when
the person uploaded them) and had known what the scores were. In
regular marp, you don't have a deadline for beating newly uploaded
scores; you have for eternity to beat them. So there should be no
limit on when scores need be uploaded from when they are recorded.
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churritz@cts.com
tournament you are denied surprising someone else by uploading a
bunch of old recordings in the last few days of the deadline because
that isn't fair to other players who could beat those scores if they
have the time to play (between when the recording was made and when
the person uploaded them) and had known what the scores were. In
regular marp, you don't have a deadline for beating newly uploaded
scores; you have for eternity to beat them. So there should be no
limit on when scores need be uploaded from when they are recorded.
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churritz@cts.com
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QRS
As long as there is not a tourney, I don´t see any reason with a time
limit on the recordings.
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qrs@telia.com
limit on the recordings.
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