FINALLY - someone please verify :)

[dskys]

Finally beat tommi's HS score.. YES it's the only game I play heheh

464940 - using NV (like tommi) I still have my 439 no NV recording if this gets zeroed but come on guys, give us a break... Wanted this for so so long

failed at the usual place, but was one tap too many I think, still buzzin

[LordGaz]

Doesn't play back for me . Did you really use mame83? Better to use Wolfmame then no one will suspect slowdown, autofire usage or pausing mid-game and such. Just to be safe use Wolfmame for MARP.

Interesting that if you leave this inp to run you can see what you need to qualify on the later rounds, for example:

Round 6 to qualify:
Swimming 45s
Skeets 4800
Horse 9.80 (16 turns?)
Archery 4200 (5+ nices)
Triple Jump 19.00m
Weight Lifting 225Kg
Pole Vault 5.95m

Round 7 was the same.

[dskys]

Sorry, Its wm83 Command line

yeah, it loops at round 6

I failed 9.60 as usual

Well I say its wm - im sure thats all I use - it's deffo the same v number as my 439k recording but i used gui for that and that was verified ok.

In cli (i dont really use it) i type mamep83 hyperspt -record hyper -allownvram

so i think that means its wm but now im not sure heheh

Hope its ok:)

[dskys]

Doesn't play back for me . Did you really use mame83? Better to use Wolfmame then no one will suspect slowdown, autofire usage or pausing mid-game and such. Just to be safe use Wolfmame for MARP.

Interesting that if you leave this inp to run you can see what you need to qualify on the later rounds, for example:

Round 6 to qualify:
Swimming 45s
Skeets 4800
Horse 9.80 (16 turns?)
Archery 4200 (5+ nices)
Triple Jump 19.00m
Weight Lifting 225Kg
Pole Vault 5.95m

Round 7 was the same.

I thought it was 18m, don't know for sure

5.95 would be the killer, tho 18m isn't formality !

The rest (well 9.8 - AL? how many turns again?) is doable

[LN2]

464940 - using NV (like tommi) I still have my 439 no NV recording if this gets zeroed but come on guys, give us a break... Wanted this for so so long

I'm curious, what would your score be for that 439k(no nvram) game if you used the same nvram file that you had for the 464,940 game?


..IMHO only that puts it in perspective....like whether this new score is a new personal best for you...in terms of real performance...not absolute score.

[Chad]

dsk, i think you fell into the trap the nvrams lead to and it's why we care about banning such substances as much as possible. You probably copied the nvram file that was in the nvram directory after recording thus having potentially changed the nvram file that WOULD have made your recording playback.

I can't playback your recording with or with out the nvram included (this is the 2nd strike i presume), since no one else has verified it does playback. Did you include the nv file that existed BEFORE making the recording or AFTER?

The seriousness about this problem is if you include an nvram created after the recording you've potentially lost the nvram you had before recording and thus the inp you made could NEVER playback, so if it was a good score you just wasted that game... of course perhaps you've taken a precaution of making the nv file non readable. But it's a little strange that two people can't playback your recording with the nvram provided.

Note: Gaz this is a wolfmame recording not a regular mame recording but i can't play it back fully either way.

[DaviL]

[quote="LordGaz"]
Did you really use mame83? Better to use Wolfmame then no one will suspect slowdown, autofire usage or pausing mid-game and such. Just to be safe use Wolfmame for MARP.

Not see the inps but:
this is a type of game that I think a secure version of mame is needed.
Hyper Olympic,Hyper sports, Tetris game...
I can believe all these inps, but not be sure!
I can easy do great performace using pause or using mame on an old pc.
However dskys beat a not-secure record so this record is number 1!|
Congrats
Hope TJT try beat with wolfmame.

[QRS]

I strongly suggest that you wait with your MARP competition until we have decided if NVRAM is allowed or not in Hypersports. If it is allowed you may have played tons of games using no NVRAM... and the other way arround. Save yourself the time and wait.

Do as you wish, but don't say I didn't warn you

[LordGaz]

Ok I tried again with Wolfmame83 . It plays back one round plus the swimming on round 2 then goes off sync in the skeets. The strange thing is though that ALL the world records start at ZERO whether I use the nvram or not including pole vault.

Doesn't Wolfmame discard nvram information when playing and recording anyway?

[Weehawk]

Ok I tried again with Wolfmame83 . It plays back one round plus the swimming on round 2 then goes off sync in the skeets. The strange thing is though that ALL the world records start at ZERO whether I use the nvram or not including pole vault.

Doesn't Wolfmame discard nvram information when playing and recording anyway?

-allownvram

[The TJT]

The seriousness about this problem is if you include an nvram created after the recording you've potentially lost the nvram you had before recording and thus the inp you made could NEVER playback, so if it was a good score you just wasted that game... of course perhaps you've taken a precaution of making the nv file non readable.

What I did when I was recording 720 play several times...Was to make a simple *.bat, which I run before recording:
copy c:\win36\play\*.cfg c:\win36\cfg\*.*
copy c:\win36\play\*.nv c:\win36\nvram\*.*

At "play" directory there was
720.nv
720.cfg
default.cfg

This way those important files are allways the same before recording!
Why I included cfg's also I don't remember, somehow I figured out they might be needed. Why I didn't make them read only?...Maybe it had to do something with service mode trick.

You can enable the nv at wolfmame by typing -allownv.

Sorry Adi, I can't playback it either. I admit you beat me anyway, but it took some time...So my score was not paper

You should try if you can playback it yourself.
NV recordings should work at HS, mine is confirmed.

Davil, sure I use wolfmame if I make new recordings...you have to notice that at time of the recording there was not wolfmame at all.

[dskys]

Well all I can suggest is to try the nv attached below. I just zipped the one tommi did, not the one from the nv folder.

It plays back ok for me with the one out of the nv folder.

[dskys]

dsk, i think you fell into the trap the nvrams lead to and it's why we care about banning such substances as much as possible. You probably copied the nvram file that was in the nvram directory after recording thus having potentially changed the nvram file that WOULD have made your recording playback.

I can't playback your recording with or with out the nvram included (this is the 2nd strike i presume), since no one else has verified it does playback. Did you include the nv file that existed BEFORE making the recording or AFTER?

The seriousness about this problem is if you include an nvram created after the recording you've potentially lost the nvram you had before recording and thus the inp you made could NEVER playback, so if it was a good score you just wasted that game... of course perhaps you've taken a precaution of making the nv file non readable. But it's a little strange that two people can't playback your recording with the nvram provided.

Note: Gaz this is a wolfmame recording not a regular mame recording but i can't play it back fully either way.

HS is set to erase records on exit. Whether it's a bug in WM I don't know but it doesn't update the NV anyway when recording - ie i record another game straight away and the nv is back how it was. So would it matter whether it's from before or after? Incidentally, it's the latter, but I can still play it back so...

The nv in the zip (post above) definately works ok. I tried it on another machine... Set it to read only tho cos like someone else said if you try to play it back more than once and it hasn't been you get zero records for some reason.

[Chad]

ok i got it now: it only playsback with -allownv and the nv file just uploaded by dsk, in the 2nd post before this one. First, it violated the three strike rule wasting three (or more peoples time), Second it violates the current nvram rule, Thirdly if there was an allowable nvram rule it violates that by having uploaded an nvram file that the inp DOESNT even playback with! Fourthly posting a screenshot of yourscore to a group of people who can't playback the recording is MEANINGLESS! Not a very good show for someone trying to show nvrams are great things because they help you get higher scores.

The recording is clearly zeroable, unless it's uploaded with an nvram file in the inp.zip that works and then it's still zeroable untill the nvram hypersports special rule is added.

Please people TEST your recordings before you upload them just as someone would if they downloaded your recording, if you're using nvrams you better know what nvram file you used so other people can use it...

[dskys]

Bit harsh:

I did TEST the recording - ONCE

The nv I upped was the one from the folder after I'd tested so it had been written to hence problems. The one above is my premium nv file.

I appreciate that it took a nights sleep to get a good NV up but there are other problematic scores, with NV issues that have been confirmed and took up far more time than this lol!

Anyways, thanks for getting it to work

*edit: If i re-upload with the 'right' files will it just overwrite the existing score even tho it's the same value? Maybe I should just try. Heh

**edit - meaningless but pretty

***edit - I would guess that without nv this plays back to below 439k for whoever asked, quite a few high scoring moles in this recording