The TJT wrote:I'm not bothered about lb change, it has sorted out submissions without inp-pride. Those click'n'search options are great features of marp. I hope Zwaxy makes "new" lb more advanced sometime. Maybe he should be emailed about it...not sure if he reads these forums regularly.
Well, yes I understand the current LB is a temp LB. However, when that was put up removing the old LB, it was stated a new one would be done in a few weeks. That was around 4-6 months ago.
I don't care if/when the new one is finished...but until it was the old LB could have still been online as an option to use.
If the new LB once done has the links on the place numbers for each player, then it would have regained 95% of what I liked of the older LB to start with.
I don't get Barry's comment about the vote though. We had 2-3 polls where it was very clear MARPers wanted a new LB(those that care about the LB at all) but still based on percentage points mainly with a slightly different place points part to it.
The "final poll" was misworded where I think most that voted "yes" just voted "yes" to have the discussions end. They weren't voting to approve of the new olympic style LB, but voting to end the issue....regardless.
Those results were flawed...yet action was taken based on that final poll...ignoring all the discussion and previous polls.
Don't let other people opinions put you down.
I don't...but it's certainly an antimotivator for playing games to set high scores except for games I really enjoyed. It's not worth time anymore to play a game for a few nights or whatever to set a new high score just to have others make comments like "oh, you only got that cuz you are using macmame."
It's not worth it.
I'd prefer people using pc because of playback.
Yes, I can understand the playback issues, but even when I started going to the trouble of converting many of my macmame inps so the converted inp would correctly playback in pc-mame nothing really came of it except being told to play in wolfmame so we can believe you really can play like that. Gimme a break...from watching the inps you can see I am not cheating but have mastered the game(s).
...so it seems some will never be satisfied....even when they can playback...cuz it wasn't recorded using wolfmame. It's a false security anyway as anyone could make some pc-mame to wolfmame inp converter and then cheat using regular pc-mame etc.
Sure, that's way too tedious for most. However, so is doing similar with macmame...yet some seem to think I do such things.
Now I have even proposed making a macwolfmame. I'm hesitant to make that cuz even if I do then some will still say I'm cheating cuz I'm using a build I made etc.
You wouldn't really gain much advantage by cheating anyway: Slowdown at pac-games don't help much. You don't play autofire games. You would've beaten me at bfight if used somekind of save state cheat.
exactly...yet the request of a wolfmame inp to make when I visit a friend is for pacman. ...not for galaga, not for nibbler....but pacman?!?!? a 20 minute inp at that. wtf is a 20 minute inp showing me clearing the first few boards going to prove versus the 6 hour converted inp that you can already view in pc-mame.
I'm sure even then that wouldn't satisfy and likely get others saying..well, if you could play 1 in wolfmame...then play them all.
Sometimes you just need to take a break from games, playing much too much is not healthy.
yep, I have certainly done that. The last time I seriously played any macmame was in March!!! I played about 1 hour in April and May...and none since.
I am hungry to play and set at least a couple of my above stated goals....and will just have to wait another month or so. I will be doing that to compete at the TG level though....not MARP. I likely will submit my inps to MARP also...for what it's worth....which if not in wolfmame seems to be nothing.
I propose every score (even prior to wolfmame) be removed from MARP then. We know it's likely some of those older scores, especially some played with 0.30-0.33rc1, had cheats on or were with games that just played easier in those old versions of mame from inaccurate emulation versus now.
Lb has it's function as one competition method too, but that's not all there is.
Actually, for macmamers, that LB was really the only competition we had. We can't play in any of the special events or tournaments that all you guys get to participate in. If I got to play in other events and competitions, perhaps I wouldn't have cared about the older LB at all except as a nice reference tool to see the other top players list of scores for games.
This is the main reason I plan to build a macwolfmame. Perhaps then we can participate in these other events.
It really sucks when you see an event like Weehawk's q*bert challenge recently where I know I could have competed well and likely won it...yet can't even participate....or a deca using several games I excel at....yet no playing for me.
I didn't even care about the bounty for q*bert...but wanted the competition. Can't do even though q*bert is a game where the macmame inp is 100% compatible and viewable in pc-mames.