Poll: How long do you practice?

General discussion on MAME, MARP, or whatever else that doesn't belong in any of the other forums

Moderators: mahlemiut, seymour, QRS

How long do you practice (in hours) on average to beat an average MARP 1st place score.

10-20 hrs
5
42%
20-40 hrs
6
50%
40-60 hrs
1
8%
60-100 hrs
0
No votes
100-150hrs
0
No votes
150+
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 12

Locut0s
Button Slapper
Button Slapper
Posts: 18
Joined: Sat Nov 08, 2003 12:10 pm
Location: Canada
Contact:

Poll: How long do you practice?

Post by Locut0s »

Hope this isn't one of those polls that appears very few weeks or so. Anyway I was wondering how long does the average Marper practice to get a 1st place score in a game. I realize this is a VERY variable question so I'm only looking for ballpark averages and also I am EXCLUDING games where there is already a 1st place score that is insanely high or that you need mad skills to beat. I'm talking about beating an average 1st place score on a game that is not hyper popular.
User avatar
Francois Daniel
MARP Seer
MARP Seer
Posts: 625
Joined: Tue May 28, 2002 8:11 am

Re: Poll: How long do you practice?

Post by Francois Daniel »

Locut0s wrote:Hope this isn't one of those polls that appears very few weeks or so. Anyway I was wondering how long does the average Marper practice to get a 1st place score in a game. I realize this is a VERY variable question so I'm only looking for ballpark averages and also I am EXCLUDING games where there is already a 1st place score that is insanely high or that you need mad skills to beat. I'm talking about beating an average 1st place score on a game that is not hyper popular.
Really. I don't know, because its very variable. On games where I'm good I'm not sure I can beat the first place. Be sides I've some first place in games I don't know before I see them on mame.

Francois
User avatar
QRS
Editor
Posts: 954
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2002 3:33 pm
Location: Sweden

Post by QRS »

Can we have an option under 1 hour please? :P

Seriously though.. It depend on the game. If you like it you don´t stop until you have beaten the record on MARP (or at least done your best). If you don´t like it so much you don´t try more than a few tries :P
QRS
User avatar
The TJT
MARPaholic
MARPaholic
Posts: 2479
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2002 10:56 am
Location: 20 Grand Palace

Post by The TJT »

If you think about it...20 hours of play, is playing 10 days each day 2 hours, which is quite much by my standards. Many games can be mastered in 20 hours of play, that's about amount I played Scramble(stern).

Best I've done to get quite decent 1:st beaten is between 1 - 2 hours, but that's at couple of sports games -which genre is strong for me.

Some games though...hard to tell how many hours I've played Track&Field or Tron. Some games take several weeks to fully master, depending on how awesome scores at marp are....some can take several months maybe.

Took me several months of play at arcade to get really good at T&F, or hypersports. Some games take very long time...think about Arkanoid, have played little with mame, improvement very slow. Have played some Robotron...I could see improvement after one week etc...but to make 100million! ...that must take long time to learn.

Just my one emulated credit
User avatar
tar
MARPaholic
MARPaholic
Posts: 1209
Joined: Mon Aug 05, 2002 9:25 am
Location: ohio u.s.a.

Post by tar »

the TJT
Scramble(stern).
I am working on Strategy-X(stern).
have 44,000 now ,
good for 2nd.
not sending in until i get over 47,000 for 1st.
zlk
MARPaltunnel Wrists
MARPaltunnel Wrists
Posts: 491
Joined: Sat Dec 07, 2002 11:41 pm

Post by zlk »

When I play, my goal isn't to beat a 1st place score. It is usually to finish the game on one credit (if it has an ending). If I like the game, I might keep playing it. My latest project is trying to finish donpachi on one credit. So far I have put in about 110 hours of practice. I think once I have played for 1110 hours, maybe I will finish it. But probably not....
User avatar
BBH
Editor
Posts: 1585
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2002 7:06 am
Location: Portland, Oregon
Contact:

Post by BBH »

As was said before, there is no defined time involving playing for a 1st place.

Anyone who's played a lot of the actual arcade game before moving onto MAME isn't going to have to spend much time at all getting used to playing on an emulator, unless it has a funky control scheme.

And sometimes a player that's good at a certain type of game can probably have a lot of that skill carry over to a game in the same genre.

There's no proper answer to this question I think...
Locut0s
Button Slapper
Button Slapper
Posts: 18
Joined: Sat Nov 08, 2003 12:10 pm
Location: Canada
Contact:

Post by Locut0s »

BBH wrote:As was said before, there is no defined time involving playing for a 1st place.

Anyone who's played a lot of the actual arcade game before moving onto MAME isn't going to have to spend much time at all getting used to playing on an emulator, unless it has a funky control scheme.

And sometimes a player that's good at a certain type of game can probably have a lot of that skill carry over to a game in the same genre.

There's no proper answer to this question I think...
Lets make it more specific then. How long did you BBH play, if you can remember, before getting your 1st place score on "Bad Dudes vs Dragonninja" of 999k? I'd say that I've played it about 5-8 hours and the highest I've gotten so far is 412k. My biggest problem with scoring on games has always been consistancy, sometimes I can get a really high score but then I can play like 30 times before I match it and those 30 times I usually only get about 1/4-1/2 of my top score, if only I can consistantly improve instead of stuttering up and down a lot.
User avatar
BBH
Editor
Posts: 1585
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2002 7:06 am
Location: Portland, Oregon
Contact:

Post by BBH »

Locut0s wrote:
BBH wrote:As was said before, there is no defined time involving playing for a 1st place.

Anyone who's played a lot of the actual arcade game before moving onto MAME isn't going to have to spend much time at all getting used to playing on an emulator, unless it has a funky control scheme.

And sometimes a player that's good at a certain type of game can probably have a lot of that skill carry over to a game in the same genre.

There's no proper answer to this question I think...
Lets make it more specific then. How long did you BBH play, if you can remember, before getting your 1st place score on "Bad Dudes vs Dragonninja" of 999k? I'd say that I've played it about 5-8 hours and the highest I've gotten so far is 412k. My biggest problem with scoring on games has always been consistancy, sometimes I can get a really high score but then I can play like 30 times before I match it and those 30 times I usually only get about 1/4-1/2 of my top score, if only I can consistantly improve instead of stuttering up and down a lot.
I don't know how much I had played it in the arcades or had messed around with it previously before concentrating on finishing it on one credit...

but once I started playing it "seriously" it took... I dunno, 3, maybe 4 hours at most? I honestly wasn't keeping track and it was a few years ago. When I started working for the one-credit finish, the first thing I did was play through with a lot of continues to figure out the most effective ways for taking out bosses, or getting through any trouble spots in levels. Gotta learn all these things and keep them in mind when you're playing for real.

The biggest problem that can kill any sort of consistency in Bad Dudes is the power-up items. They're completely random, so you have to hope that the red ninja is going to be dropping the Coke can when your life is low, but there's no way to guarantee it.
Locut0s
Button Slapper
Button Slapper
Posts: 18
Joined: Sat Nov 08, 2003 12:10 pm
Location: Canada
Contact:

Post by Locut0s »

Locut0s wrote:My biggest problem with scoring on games has always been consistancy, sometimes I can get a really high score but then I can play like 30 times before I match it and those 30 times I usually only get about 1/4-1/2 of my top score, if only I can consistantly improve instead of stuttering up and down a lot.
Another reason may be the controller I'm playing with, I'm using a an elcheapo genesis clone 6 button game pad from radioshack. The D-pad is not the best, it can be hard at times to isolate one direction without accidentally pressing others. *Locut0s hungrily eyes the XGamer & Hotrod controllers :-)*
User avatar
mike_myers
Button Masher
Button Masher
Posts: 61
Joined: Sat Dec 20, 2003 10:38 pm
Contact:

Post by mike_myers »

Another reason may be the controller I'm playing with...
The controller I use is keyboard.
You can configure keyboard to press two or more buttons at once, this can be useful in Mortal Kombat (bonus stages), Vampire Savior (to activate "Dark Force"), Crazy Kong (the 'warp level' trick is easier) and more games. -the list is too long-. ;)
Unfortunately that trick doesn't work in Track'n Field and Hypersports. :(

PD: The poll is hours in a month or week? (150 hours is too high if it's hours in a week -and impossible if you say hours in a day-). :?:
Image
User avatar
Barthax
MARP Seer
MARP Seer
Posts: 691
Joined: Fri Sep 27, 2002 1:13 pm
Contact:

Post by Barthax »

I can only echo the general sentiment: it depends on the game. For the USG Games, I think I managed 8 in six very solid hours. As for dragrace, that was ~ 6 hours.

Give me a shooter... my estimate would be in the centuries, not hours!
User avatar
mahlemiut
Editor
Posts: 4189
Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2002 10:05 pm
Location: New Zealand
Contact:

Post by mahlemiut »

I'll just say that mapping two or more inputs to one key is not exactly kosher.
- Barry Rodewald
MARP Assistant Web Maintainer
Image
User avatar
The TJT
MARPaholic
MARPaholic
Posts: 2479
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2002 10:56 am
Location: 20 Grand Palace

Post by The TJT »

Unfortunately that trick doesn't work in Track'n Field and Hypersports. :(
I'm shattered :roll:



....Seriously...we are trying to simulate arcade playing experience at Marp. Now you could not map multiple buttons on one button at arcade.
Think about why autofire is not accepted.
User avatar
mike_myers
Button Masher
Button Masher
Posts: 61
Joined: Sat Dec 20, 2003 10:38 pm
Contact:

Post by mike_myers »

If you use a wireless keyboard, sometimes it doesn't recognize two -or more- keys pressed at once. :(
That is the best option.
Image
Post Reply