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I wonder

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 6:38 pm
by Novice
DEFCON=7

Again.
I did not attack anyone. just my wonder. :?:

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 6:55 pm
by Weehawk
viewtopic.php?t=10185&start=0&postdays= ... king%20mac

This was the poll that resulted in the Alphamame blocking.

Read the third paragraph of Chad's original post very carefully.

It answers your question.

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 7:52 pm
by Novice
DEFCON=7
Weehawk wrote:viewtopic.php?t=10185&start=0&postdays= ... king%20mac

This was the poll that resulted in the Alphamame blocking.

Read the third paragraph of Chad's original post very carefully.

It answers your question.
Thanks.


but it does not apply for all players.
this rule is still unfair.

Wonder II
some post will be deleted very quickly which is disadvantage for someone.
Is he a sponser or rule maker??

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:47 pm
by Chad
I don't have a grasp of this inquiry yet but here's some info: alphablocking is dead and gone, since someone posted a way to hack alphamame publicly. No more alphablocking will be done at marp until we have a more secure version wich will have to go through another voting process if it gets that far. And for the scores that were alphablocked, they will remain blocked because there was a vote for blocking at one time. We now rely on checking the inps for "signatures of un-arcade methods" manually with subjective input analysis tools.

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:24 pm
by Weehawk
Chad wrote:I don't have a grasp of this inquiry yet
He edited out or deleted his original questions which were nothing new anyway. I happened to see his post before he changed it.
Chad wrote:alphablocking is dead and gone, since someone posted a way to hack alphamame publicly. No more alphablocking will be done at marp until we have a more secure version
Through what process was that decision made? Alphamame blocking became a standing rule when the 3/3/03 vote passed. According to the rules a 2/3 majority vote should have been required to change it. Otherwise it should still be enforced.

I, for one, would not vote to change it. I still feel there is value in the use of Alphamame even if someone somewhere has tools to get around it.

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:35 pm
by QRS
Barry decided to stop his work on alphamame (Due to that crackpot that hacked it..) , so this is his choice, not the publics choice (nor the editors)

I respect his opinion, and as there will be no more new alphamames there is no need for the blocking anymore.

QRS

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:46 pm
by Weehawk
QRS wrote:Barry decided to stop his work on alphamame (Due to that crackpot that hacked it..) , so this is his choice, not the publics choice (nor the editors)
I understand. :cry:

Very unfortunate. I really think we should have an official, secure-as-possible version of mame to promote some degree of standardization.

Oh well.....

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:58 pm
by Chad
yeah me too. the "most" secure mame is still alphamame, wolf mame isn't far behind and is gaining even with out encryption.