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Mame 0.67 is out btw

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 6:06 pm
by Haze
some nice new shooters :-)

0.67


MAME Testers bugs fixed (there are probably more)
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rocnrope37b7ora [Nicola Salmoria]
m62sound066yel
bladstle065gra [Jake Stookey]
poundfor37b14gra (only the second part) [Jake Stookey]


These drivers have improved SOUND:
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- Fixed sample playback in the M72 games. [Nicola Salmoria]

- Music in Battle Rangers. [Charles MacDonald]


Other drivers changes:
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- Dozens of corrections to game description/flags [Toby Broyad]

- Deveral improvements to Championship VBall. [Steve Ellenoff]


Changes to the main program:
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- New options -autoror/-autorol. They rotate the screen only if the game is
vertical; useful with "pivot" LCD monitors. [Paul Priest]


Source:
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- MIPS 3/4 x86 dynamic recompiling core. [Aaron Giles]

- PIC16C5x CPU core. [Quench]

- Sega 315-5560 "MultiPCM" sound chip emulation. [R. Belmont]

- HuC6280 sound emulation. [Charles MacDonald]


New games supported:
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Mystic Warriors [R. Belmont, Phil Stroffolino]
Gaiapolis [R. Belmont, Phil Stroffolino]
Metamorphic Force [R. Belmont, Phil Stroffolino]
Kyukyoku Sentai Dadandarn [R. Belmont, Phil Stroffolino, Acho A. Tang]
Violent Storm [R. Belmont, Phil Stroffolino, Acho A. Tang]
Twin Bee Yahhoo! [R. Belmont, Phil Stroffolino, Acho A. Tang]
Martial Champion [R. Belmont, Phil Stroffolino, Acho A. Tang]
Lethal Enforcers 2 [R. Belmont, Phil Stroffolino, Olivier Galibert]
Taisen Puzzle-Dama [R. Belmont, Phil Stroffolino, Olivier Galibert]
Gokujou Parodius [R. Belmont, Phil Stroffolino, Olivier Galibert]
Sexy Parodius [R. Belmont, Phil Stroffolino, Olivier Galibert]
Daisu-Kiss [R. Belmont, Phil Stroffolino, Olivier Galibert]
Taisen Tokkae-Dama [R. Belmont, Phil Stroffolino, Olivier Galibert, David Haywood]
Guardians / Denjin Makai II [Luca Elia]
Dragongun [Bryan McPhail]
Tattoo Assassins [Bryan McPhail]
Locked 'n Loaded [Bryan McPhail]
Dead Angle [Bryan McPhail, David Haywood]
Dragon Master [David Haywood, Quench]
Las Vegas Girl (Girl '94) [David Haywood]
Hard Dunk [Jason Lo, R. Belmont, David Haywood]
Outrunners [Jason Lo, R. Belmont, David Haywood]
Tecmo Bowl [David Haywood, Tomasz Slanina]
Complex X [Brian Crowe]

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 8:23 pm
by Skyline
Finally the emphasis has been taken off of Mahjong. And it's shifted to..Konami. O_o

...and do we have to poll AGAIN for that offroad trick for Outrunners? ALL ARGUING BAD HURT HEAD.

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 5:29 pm
by LN2
I don't think so...but if there are more than 1 rom set I would hope only 1 rom set would allow the trick...keeping the other sets from using the trick.

That was the end result for Outrun which satisfied most.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 3:14 am
by Mr. Kelly R. Flewin
Skyline wrote:Finally the emphasis has been taken off of Mahjong. And it's shifted to..Konami. O_o
hehehe yeah, I expect version .69 to be nothing but Adult Mahjong Games ;) Just watch this come true!


Kelly

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 1:07 am
by Novice
DEFCON=2
LN2 wrote:I don't think so...but if there are more than 1 rom set I would hope only 1 rom set would allow the trick...keeping the other sets from using the trick.

That was the end result for Outrun which satisfied most.
I must say."It is not right."
The fact is
"LOSERS understand they can not win at the game even if allow trick or not."
so can not complain any more. very simple.

only "1" sweet spot play at camel try was bashed perfectly.
because of they feel it may not beaten if ban trick.
differect case of outrun. how simple losers logics are!!! :lol:

"allow the trick at only 1 version" is just my opinion.
I think it is reasonable but most of losers do not accept it.
simply "admit thier lose." is current result of outrun competiton.


Outrunners offroad trick??
I do not want to be a target any more.
normal runnning is enough to beat all current marpers.
of course my comment must be "poor play"

DEFCON=6
and one more question.

what is defenition of the score of outrunners??
ban all unfinish the race and set the function as (3'40"-total time) is easy.

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 1:30 am
by LN2
Novice wrote:"LOSERS understand they can not win at the game even if allow trick or not."
so can not complain any more. very simple.
I guess that's more of your nice and gentlemanly charm that you claim to have.

Why don't you just crawl back into the hole you live in? Why is it you act like such an ass and just harass others posting in threads just to stir up trouble?

I was already conceding that if 1 rom-set for that other game allowed the off-road trick from outrun that's fine by me.

What makes you think we all want to "win at that game"?
I could actually give a shit about Outrun now. I actually hadn't played it hardly at all in MAME. I likely won't now either just because I don't want your crap. I don't need your crap. Leave us and especially me the hell alone. Get it!

In your words... Let's see you beat 3,322,900 at pacman ehh? You are a "LOSER" at pacman because you haven't submitted a score for it. You are not worthy to discuss unless you also can score 3.3 million at pacman so don't bother replying.

See how stupid that sounds Novice? That's exactly what you constantly tell people here. It's totally illogical and rude and moronic.
"allow the trick at only 1 version" is just my opinion.
I think it is reasonable but most of losers do not accept it.
simply "admit thier lose." is current result.
Did you ever think that since you are in the small minority on many of these issues that perhaps you are the "loser"?!? What an ego you have to think you are right and the other 70+% of gamers here are wrong.

You are calling 70+% of the gamers here losers. Have you realized that?

I haven't even mentioned outrun since that poll or given you any shit about it...yet here we are weeks later and you still bring up Camel Try and shit just to piss me off.

Above someone asked if that new rom will have to have a new poll etc. I said I was alright if that game has multiple rom sets to allow 1 rom set to use the off-road trick...not going through the trouble of a poll...that you easily could lose anyway so couldn't use the trick for any of the rom sets...instead of quitting while you are ahead you have to be an ass yet again.

Yes, in Outrun even using the trick some skill is still involved...still competitive with final scores still related to skill. Because of that I understand many wanting to allow the off-road trick and haven't mentioned it again. I accepted the poll result. I moved on. That seems like ages ago to me now except when you keep bringing the crap up.

Why is it you can't just move on yourself instead of repeating the same shit over and over again for several weeks and months when the issue was resolved?!?!?

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 4:22 am
by zlk
If marp had a special section where players could submit inps playing the game in any manner they wanted to, I don't think people would argue as much. The main area of marp would be a TG/Competition area, where each game has specific rules, and where leader board points are tallied.

Call me nuts, but if people want to play outrun while driving offroad the whole time, or warp through walls in cameltry, or leech till the cows come home, then I say more power to them. Those inps can be interesting. I may even prefer to play some of the games that way. I would like to see how to get 255 men in foodfight, try the trick and see how long I could last playing this way. But alas, I don't know how, and it seems no one else does as well......

Call me crazy, but if someone wants to establish a one man competition rule on gyruss to prevent games lasting more than 3 hours, decides the way to score cameltry is by total time to complete the game without warping through walls, decides to implement a 5 man rule on ghosts and goblins so that players have time to eat during the day instead of playing 24 hours nonstop, then that's great also. These inps are also worth viewing. Special rules are necessary in many games.

Marp could easily accommodate both groups of people.

Just a small request 8O

RE

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 7:46 am
by QRS
I agree John. What I don´t like is this flaming, calling people things all the time.

This time Rick only asked a polite question, and Hisa flamed him.

Stop the Hisa! Try and discuss in a grown up behaviour please!
And Rick, just ignore those posts by him. It does not make it better to answer them.

Peace guys.

Re: RE

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 1:09 pm
by Novice
Defcon=5
QRS wrote:I agree John. What I don´t like is this flaming, calling people things all the time.

This time Rick only asked a polite question, and Hisa flamed him.

Stop the Hisa! Try and discuss in a grown up behaviour please!
And Rick, just ignore those posts by him. It does not make it better to answer them.
Peace guys.
I just point out the fact.
Faulse:Admit the trick at 1 version is good idea. so at outrun competition is now reasonable.
True:Admit the trick at 1 version is not accepted by many players.
just all gear trick master(to tell the truth,far from master) decide
not use it at other versions.
other players know theirselves can not win anysome, so give up to complain.

Definition of Loser: Just complain without skill. I think there are only 3 losers at MARP. R,T and F.


LN2's message is "A LITTLE DIFFERENT" from the fact.
so I just point out. not more than.


and my main question is here.
"outrunners" does not have score. how to decide it??

Re: RE

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 3:43 pm
by LN2
Novice wrote:Definition of Loser: Just complain without skill. I think there are only 3 losers at MARP. R,T and F.
..and in what way was my small post above complaining where you once again can dis me and call me a loser?!?!

It doesn't do anything of the sort. As I said above I even was already conceding that it should follow the same thing that we have for Outrun now. That should have pleased you to see that...but no...instead you just bash on people all you want here anytime you want.

I think my 70 first place scores here at MARP show I have gaming skill. I don't need to be an expert at a specific game to bring up stuff like stage 1 infinite leeching to get millions of points.

Those that bring up issues and have polls for special rules for 100+ other games here aren't experts and elite players for those games. However, they can easily set up special rules to allow a fair competition on the game so the scores/records have meaning.

Why don't you add all of them to your loser's list also? Why don't you attack them when they have a polite and peaceful post just to piss them off?

What I did and will do for suggesting special rules for games and giving my opinions is something many many others here also do. It doesn't make us losers by suggesting those things. It isn't even complaining just to suggest we have a new special rule etc. because without it where this technique is allowed competition for the game becomes pointless....archive it. All lose if the game is archived...no records at all for that game. Special rules for many games keep the game open for scores and not archived.

I had never played the game Naughty Boy before and from watching that 1 inp(which I was only watching to confirm the score...not some mission to check all inps) I then was able to easily do what he did and score 2+ million without having hardly any idea how to play the game otherwise. i then played the game without that cheap leech a few times playing through stages and was only able to get about 100-150k...cuz it was new to me. However, I only did that to show contrast of just how that leeching "trick" for that game totally makes high scores for the game bogus...as I could have continued to do the leech and gotten 100 million if I wanted to waste 10 hours doing that leech on stage 1.

That isn't what high scores and records are about. Records should be based on skill and playing the actual game designed...not something else.

Sure, it's cool to see that kind of play for games....on a tricks page..but not for record scores.

Tricks allow you to obtain higher scores with lesser amounts of skill versus others not using the tricks. Knowledge of tricks doesn't equal skill. Not sure there are some games where a "trick" is really a skill trick or just a clever thing to do to get a higher score. That's clearly different than other cases where you have just cheapened the game so competition on it is pointless.(I'm not talking about Outrun here.)
LN2's message is "A LITTLE DIFFERENT" from the fact.
so I just point out. not more than.
No you didn't. You called me a loser. If you were human you would have pointed out what aspect of my message was "a little different" instead of not even stating that and instead just calling me a loser again. See that difference? You calling others losers doesn't accomplish anything except causing animosity of some toward others.

I think given you called me a loser even though I conceded outrunners should be similar to Outrun I think we will end up with a separate poll for Outrunners to vote if that technique should be allowed.

Instead of taking a polite gift and concession you say that's complaining and I'm a loser so fine. I will make outrunners a poll to see if that technique even though allowed in Outrun will be allowed in this other game also.

Actually I really could get a crap now.

I admire the scores for Outrun set by others tons more than I admire your score(s) using the offroad trick. It's that simple. I used to actually admire some of your scores here at MARP Hisa but I don't anymore cuz I'm guessing as you have shown for these last few games you will use any trick and cheat to get a high score. Even if the inps for other scores are without serious tricks it wouldn't surprise me at all if you played the games at 50% speed.

Why don't you prove your true skill at these shooter games by redoing a couple of them with alphamame? I have noticed you haven't set 1 high score for any shooter games since alphamame blocking was added...hmmm.

QRS, it's very hard to ignore and not reply to someone who is essentially smearing your character and calling you a loser etc.

With my recent appointment at TG I realize I can't allow myself to drop to the level Novice is at in forum postings from now on.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 5:13 am
by DRN
Rick I know it's difficult but you're going to have to try and ignore Novice and his constructive criticism ( :roll: ).
He's only doing it to get a reaction and every time you post a reply you're playing right into his hands. He's just going to post something else containing the words 'loser', 'no skill', 'shut up' and other gems. Don't rise to it.