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Re: Archive these games -topic

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:08 pm
by PP.
We 're talking for deck cards.

Meanwhile I saw that "Baby Pac-Man" was archived, while games like "Super Duper Casino (California V3.2)" remain in their position...

Re: Archive these games -topic

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:15 pm
by Haze
PP. wrote:We 're talking for deck cards.

Meanwhile I saw that "Baby Pac-Man" was archived, while games like "Super Duper Casino (California V3.2)" remain in their position...
Well yes, Baby Pac-Man is a Pinball Hybrid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEX7TqjW3nU

You can trigger all the mechanical score parts without playing anything, of course it gets archived.

Super Duper Casino is a 'for amusement only' multi-game, it's entirely possible the games within it are skill based as there is no payout, it wasn't designed for gambling, so it doesn't necessarily need to be archived. It's a bad game, but that doesn't make it 'not a real game'

Re: Archive these games -topic

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:57 pm
by PP.
Haze wrote:
Well yes, Baby Pac-Man is a Pinball Hybrid.

You can trigger all the mechanical score parts without playing anything, of course it gets archived.

Super Duper Casino is a 'for amusement only' multi-game, it's entirely possible the games within it are skill based as there is no payout, it wasn't designed for gambling, so it doesn't necessarily need to be archived.
Baby Pac-Man has special rules, therefore became 100% skill.

Many multi-games, even with skill games, have already been archived, why Super Duper Casino should be an exception?

Re: Archive these games -topic

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:42 pm
by Kale

Re: Archive these games -topic

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:28 pm
by ***PL***
OK, this is what I have done so far...

KEEPING:

[Ball & Paddle]
[Climbing]
[Driving]
[Fighter]
[Maze]
[Misc.]
[Multiplay] ONLY Mini-Games & non-card games
[Not Classified]
[Pinball]
[Platform]
[Puzzle]
[Rhythm]
[Shooter]
[Sports]
[Tabletop] ONLY Mahjong non-[BET]

============================================

REMOVING:

[BIOS]
[Calculator]
[Casino]
[Chess]
[Computer]
[Dame Machine]
[DECO]
[Electromechanical]
[Game Console]
[Handheld]
[Medal Game]
[Multi-cart Board]
[Multiplay] ONLY Compilation Card Games
[Print Club]
[Printer]
[Quiz]
[Simulator]
[System]
[Tabletop] EXCEPT Mahjong non-[BET]
[Utilities]

Re: Archive these games -topic

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:55 pm
by ***PL***
Remember, this is a first pass and there are literally thousands of changes. I need to see what happens overnight!!

Very quickly, and based on my prior post...

Game [Group]
=====================
babypac [Electromagnetic]
usg32 [Multiplay], NOT ALL REMOVED -- kept Brick-Break & Wizard of Words

ddenlovj [Tabletop / Othello]
ddenlovr [Tabletop / Othello]
ddenlovrb [Tabletop / Othello]
flagrall [Not Classified] RESTORED
gangonta [Misc.] RESTORED
gfire2 [Tabletop / Misc.]
gomoku [Tabletop / Renju]
gundealr [Puzzle / Cards]
gundealra [Puzzle / Cards]
ladykill (not sure why)
maiko [Tabletop / Hanafuda]
moegonta (not sure why)
othellos [Tabletop / Othello]
othldrby [Tabletop / Othello]
paprazzi (not sure why)
primella [Puzzle / Cards]
prtytime (not sure why)
qad [Quiz]
renju [Tabletop / Renju]
rotaryf -- previously REMOVED (not sure why)
sothello [Tabletop / Othello]

Re: Archive these games -topic

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:58 am
by PP.
I wonder why you remove the boards games. If I were you I' d remove the broken games.

***PL*** wrote: usg32 [Multiplay], NOT ALL REMOVED -- kept Brick-Break & Wizard of Words
But when you deleted the Megatouch series you didn't keep the "four play".

Will you tell me why you deleted those 3 "slikshots"?

Re: Archive these games -topic

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:11 am
by Haze
PP. wrote: Baby Pac-Man has special rules, therefore became 100% skill.
It's still a broken game, you're only playing part of it, the entire power-up system etc. revolves around the pinball table.

No better than playing on any other broken game, no better than any of sauron's uploads.

Re: Archive these games -topic

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:39 am
by Phil Lamat
***PL*** wrote: ddenlovj [Tabletop / Othello]
ddenlovr [Tabletop / Othello]
ddenlovrb [Tabletop / Othello]
flagrall [Not Classified] RESTORED
gangonta [Misc.] RESTORED
gfire2 [Tabletop / Misc.]
gomoku [Tabletop / Renju]
gundealr [Puzzle / Cards]
gundealra [Puzzle / Cards]
ladykill (not sure why)
maiko [Tabletop / Hanafuda]
moegonta (not sure why)
othellos [Tabletop / Othello]
othldrby [Tabletop / Othello]
paprazzi (not sure why)
primella [Puzzle / Cards]
prtytime (not sure why)
qad [Quiz]
renju [Tabletop / Renju]
rotaryf -- previously REMOVED (not sure why)
sothello [Tabletop / Othello]
This is getting absurd, all Othellos archived, gfire2 archived (I've spent so much time to finish this one).
Gundealr/primella archived ?? why ? because in puzzle/card you've "card". Basically it involves same gameplay than tetris (maybe more difficult).
Or next step is to archive puzzle games ?

And all this without any vote ?

Re: Archive these games -topic

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:29 pm
by PP.
Haze wrote:
It's still a broken game, you're only playing part of it, the entire power-up system etc. revolves around the pinball table.

No better than playing on any other broken game, no better than any of sauron's uploads.
Tell this to those players who followed the special rules and played many hours to create their scores.

Phil Lamat wrote:
This is getting absurd........................And all this without any vote ?
Ha ha, do you now realize what I was talking about all this time?..

Re: Archive these games -topic

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:33 pm
by PP.
Phil Lamat wrote: Chess is known as "king of all games"
Exept Zoku Otenamihaiken((zokuoten-che)) which other chess games exist in mame?

Re: Archive these games -topic

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:25 pm
by Kale
***PL*** wrote: ddenlovj [Tabletop / Othello]
ddenlovr [Tabletop / Othello]
ddenlovrb [Tabletop / Othello]
flagrall [Not Classified] RESTORED
gangonta [Misc.] RESTORED
gfire2 [Tabletop / Misc.]
gomoku [Tabletop / Renju]
gundealr [Puzzle / Cards]
gundealra [Puzzle / Cards]
ladykill (not sure why)
maiko [Tabletop / Hanafuda]
moegonta (not sure why)
othellos [Tabletop / Othello]
othldrby [Tabletop / Othello]
paprazzi (not sure why)
primella [Puzzle / Cards]
prtytime (not sure why)
qad [Quiz]
renju [Tabletop / Renju]
rotaryf -- previously REMOVED (not sure why)
sothello [Tabletop / Othello]
In no particular order:

maiko is a mahjong game from the snapshot.
qad is an English quiz game, I thought the idea was to not ban these?
rotaryf maybe is broken, haven't checked, mahlemiut?
Puzzle / Cards is a legit genre, shouldn't be banned at all.
Tabletop probably needs a poll at this point.

Re: Archive these games -topic

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:09 pm
by mahlemiut
rotaryf should work, just imperfect sound.

Re: Archive these games -topic

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:32 pm
by PP.
Now what happened?
Games were added instead of delete?

Re: Archive these games -topic

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:44 pm
by BeeJay
Hi Pat,

It looks like the game fredmem is meant to be archived, according to the special rules, due to it being too easy to get the max score but the game doesn't currently appear to be archived:

http://replay.marpirc.net/r/fredmem

Cheers,
BeeJay.