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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:46 pm
by sawys
GHEMANT wrote:I have to say that i don't agree about the JYD's replay at wardner. Wardner is a inevitable infinite leeching game, there are some locations in the game where sacrifying extralifes with the timeout it's possible to win others with pts. One of this places con be found a stage 5, during the battle against Golems. In his last replay, JYD uses this illegal tecnique. He uses it just once, but anyway he usis this system to increase infinite coins because after accumulating golds he dies with the timeout, but with the many earned point right against the Golem he recovers the lost life.
And your inp made yesterday is not legal because you died against the last boss because of lack of time so you hadn't enough time to finish the game and you earn another life with score when you finish to beat the boss...
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:59 pm
by sawys
destructor wrote:Yes, score should be zeroed.
Best solution for this game is limit lives I think.
1 life
No maybe better solution like evoqued here
viewtopic.php?t=12481 should be to calculate the number of frames from 2 points determined = time trial
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:29 pm
by GHEMANT
sawys wrote:GHEMANT wrote:I have to say that i don't agree about the JYD's replay at wardner. Wardner is a inevitable infinite leeching game, there are some locations in the game where sacrifying extralifes with the timeout it's possible to win others with pts. One of this places con be found a stage 5, during the battle against Golems. In his last replay, JYD uses this illegal tecnique. He uses it just once, but anyway he usis this system to increase infinite coins because after accumulating golds he dies with the timeout, but with the many earned point right against the Golem he recovers the lost life.
And your inp made yesterday is not legal because you died against the last boss because of lack of time so you hadn't enough time to finish the game and you earn another life with score when you finish to beat the boss...
my replay of yesterday (3.850.000) is legal, because I was in front of the last boss with many seconds for finish the game. For a my mistake (and not for time end) I died 1 life against last boss.
then, I finish the game, but 1 life miss and i lost 90.000 pts (lives bonus count)
9 lives + 1 = 900.000 bonus
9 lives = 810.000 bonus
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:47 pm
by sawys
GHEMANT wrote:sawys wrote:GHEMANT wrote:I have to say that i don't agree about the JYD's replay at wardner. Wardner is a inevitable infinite leeching game, there are some locations in the game where sacrifying extralifes with the timeout it's possible to win others with pts. One of this places con be found a stage 5, during the battle against Golems. In his last replay, JYD uses this illegal tecnique. He uses it just once, but anyway he usis this system to increase infinite coins because after accumulating golds he dies with the timeout, but with the many earned point right against the Golem he recovers the lost life.
And your inp made yesterday is not legal because you died against the last boss because of lack of time so you hadn't enough time to finish the game and you earn another life with score when you finish to beat the boss...
my replay of yesterday (3.850.000) is legal, because I was in front of the last boss with many seconds for finish the game. For a my mistake (and not for time end) I died 1 life against last boss.
then, I finish the game, but 1 life miss and i lost 90.000 pts (lives bonus count)
9 lives + 1 = 900.000 bonus
9 lives = 810.000 bonus
So i maybe wrong but i remember that i saw you kill the boss and loose because of time in one of your last inp, a double ko in fact like it is possible in pulstar
But are you sure that you would have 900 000 bonus points with 9+1 ?? 9 lives is the maximum showed by the game so i presume counted ? So it explains why you loose your life to increas bonus points...
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:19 pm
by GHEMANT
sawys wrote:
So i maybe wrong but i remember that i saw you kill the boss and loose because of time in one of your last inp, a double ko in fact like it is possible in pulstar
But are you sure that you would have 900 000 bonus points with 9+1 ?? 9 lives is the maximum showed by the game so i presume counted ? So it explains why you loose your life to increas bonus points...
In my old replay I lost some lifes against last boss because I didn't know the exact position where to be. If I have 2 fairies I can beat last boss with 4/5 seconds on time counter. Double KO is impossible in wardner and is it useless because:
9 lives is maximum display.... but if you win a tenth lives it have value.
I'm sure 100%
9 lives = 100.000 x 8 + 10.000 pts
9 lives + 1 (invisible) = 100.000 x 9 = 900.000
if you not have 10 lives after last boss, replay is not good.
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:24 pm
by DaviL
Yes. The game calculate bonus for 10 lives (or more)
Now you and JYD know, so rememeber take life on stage 4.
This is our last secret we offer to french players...
I can't play no more for you.
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:18 pm
by sawys
DaviL wrote:Yes. The game calculate bonus for 10 lives (or more)
Now you and JYD know, so rememeber take life on stage 4.
This is our last secret we offer to french players...
I can't play no more for you.
Thanks, i just watched gemant's inp and i saw he's right
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:45 pm
by sawys
Hi !
Sorry but this inp doesn't playback till 2520700, size of the inp is 133 Ko only and playback stop at the beginning, may be an error of file ?
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/0/1/8/av ... olf103.zip
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:36 am
by destructor
19xx.
I see FAQ on Aiva page. But on my page is one secret more:
http://www.gramtech.dt.pl/hotteam/faqs/19xx/secrets.php
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:46 am
by GHEMANT
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:41 am
by destructor
GHEMANT wrote:
where? in which stage?
Mission 5 - SANCHO PEDRO.
1UP is hidden here:
You must fast shot, next you must catch this 1UP because it will fly.
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:01 am
by GHEMANT
in third page of Aiva guide you can see the second secret 1 up:
http://www.aiva.emuita.it/19xx.php?pag=3
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:03 am
by GHEMANT
however.. in my inp of 10.000.000 I get both 1 up
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:24 am
by destructor
Oh, yes, I see now. I thought that you have all secrets on one page.
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:01 pm
by sawys
Hi !
It seems that newabo's inp on wardner doesn't respect marp rule :
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/f/e/f/na ... olf103.zip
He lost because of lack of time (0.01 sec) at the end of the stage 2 ^^
Is it legal or not ?