France vs. Italy Challenge - Rules and Leaderboard

sawys · Post by **sawys** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:46 pm

GHEMANT wrote:I have to say that i don't agree about the JYD's replay at wardner. Wardner is a inevitable infinite leeching game, there are some locations in the game where sacrifying extralifes with the timeout it's possible to win others with pts. One of this places con be found a stage 5, during the battle against Golems. In his last replay, JYD uses this illegal tecnique. He uses it just once, but anyway he usis this system to increase infinite coins because after accumulating golds he dies with the timeout, but with the many earned point right against the Golem he recovers the lost life.

And your inp made yesterday is not legal because you died against the last boss because of lack of time so you hadn't enough time to finish the game and you earn another life with score when you finish to beat the boss...

sawys · Post by **sawys** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:59 pm

destructor wrote:Yes, score should be zeroed.
Best solution for this game is limit lives I think.

1 life

No maybe better solution like evoqued here viewtopic.php?t=12481 should be to calculate the number of frames from 2 points determined = time trial

GHEMANT · Post by **GHEMANT** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:29 pm

sawys wrote:
GHEMANT wrote:I have to say that i don't agree about the JYD's replay at wardner. Wardner is a inevitable infinite leeching game, there are some locations in the game where sacrifying extralifes with the timeout it's possible to win others with pts. One of this places con be found a stage 5, during the battle against Golems. In his last replay, JYD uses this illegal tecnique. He uses it just once, but anyway he usis this system to increase infinite coins because after accumulating golds he dies with the timeout, but with the many earned point right against the Golem he recovers the lost life.
And your inp made yesterday is not legal because you died against the last boss because of lack of time so you hadn't enough time to finish the game and you earn another life with score when you finish to beat the boss...

my replay of yesterday (3.850.000) is legal, because I was in front of the last boss with many seconds for finish the game. For a my mistake (and not for time end) I died 1 life against last boss.

then, I finish the game, but 1 life miss and i lost 90.000 pts (lives bonus count)

9 lives + 1 = 900.000 bonus
9 lives = 810.000 bonus

sawys · Post by **sawys** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:47 pm

GHEMANT wrote:
sawys wrote:
GHEMANT wrote:I have to say that i don't agree about the JYD's replay at wardner. Wardner is a inevitable infinite leeching game, there are some locations in the game where sacrifying extralifes with the timeout it's possible to win others with pts. One of this places con be found a stage 5, during the battle against Golems. In his last replay, JYD uses this illegal tecnique. He uses it just once, but anyway he usis this system to increase infinite coins because after accumulating golds he dies with the timeout, but with the many earned point right against the Golem he recovers the lost life.
And your inp made yesterday is not legal because you died against the last boss because of lack of time so you hadn't enough time to finish the game and you earn another life with score when you finish to beat the boss...
my replay of yesterday (3.850.000) is legal, because I was in front of the last boss with many seconds for finish the game. For a my mistake (and not for time end) I died 1 life against last boss.

then, I finish the game, but 1 life miss and i lost 90.000 pts (lives bonus count)

9 lives + 1 = 900.000 bonus
9 lives = 810.000 bonus

So i maybe wrong but i remember that i saw you kill the boss and loose because of time in one of your last inp, a double ko in fact like it is possible in pulstar

But are you sure that you would have 900 000 bonus points with 9+1 ?? 9 lives is the maximum showed by the game so i presume counted ? So it explains why you loose your life to increas bonus points...

GHEMANT · Post by **GHEMANT** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:19 pm

sawys wrote: So i maybe wrong but i remember that i saw you kill the boss and loose because of time in one of your last inp, a double ko in fact like it is possible in pulstar

But are you sure that you would have 900 000 bonus points with 9+1 ?? 9 lives is the maximum showed by the game so i presume counted ? So it explains why you loose your life to increas bonus points...

In my old replay I lost some lifes against last boss because I didn't know the exact position where to be. If I have 2 fairies I can beat last boss with 4/5 seconds on time counter. Double KO is impossible in wardner and is it useless because:

9 lives is maximum display.... but if you win a tenth lives it have value.

I'm sure 100%

9 lives = 100.000 x 8 + 10.000 pts
9 lives + 1 (invisible) = 100.000 x 9 = 900.000

if you not have 10 lives after last boss, replay is not good.

DaviL · Post by **DaviL** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:24 pm

Yes. The game calculate bonus for 10 lives (or more)
Now you and JYD know, so rememeber take life on stage 4.
This is our last secret we offer to french players...
I can't play no more for you.

sawys · Post by **sawys** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:18 pm

DaviL wrote:Yes. The game calculate bonus for 10 lives (or more)
Now you and JYD know, so rememeber take life on stage 4.
This is our last secret we offer to french players...
I can't play no more for you.

Thanks, i just watched gemant's inp and i saw he's right

sawys · Post by **sawys** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:45 pm

Hi !

Sorry but this inp doesn't playback till 2520700, size of the inp is 133 Ko only and playback stop at the beginning, may be an error of file ?

http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/0/1/8/av ... olf103.zip

destructor · Post by **destructor** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:36 am

19xx.
I see FAQ on Aiva page. But on my page is one secret more:
http://www.gramtech.dt.pl/hotteam/faqs/19xx/secrets.php

GHEMANT · Post by **GHEMANT** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:46 am

destructor wrote:19xx.
I see FAQ on Aiva page. But on my page is one secret more:
http://www.gramtech.dt.pl/hotteam/faqs/19xx/secrets.php

where? in which stage?

destructor · Post by **destructor** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:41 am

GHEMANT wrote:
destructor wrote:19xx.
I see FAQ on Aiva page. But on my page is one secret more:
http://www.gramtech.dt.pl/hotteam/faqs/19xx/secrets.php
where? in which stage?

Mission 5 - SANCHO PEDRO.
1UP is hidden here:

You must fast shot, next you must catch this 1UP because it will fly.

GHEMANT · Post by **GHEMANT** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:01 am

in third page of Aiva guide you can see the second secret 1 up:

http://www.aiva.emuita.it/19xx.php?pag=3

GHEMANT · Post by **GHEMANT** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:03 am

however.. in my inp of 10.000.000 I get both 1 up

destructor · Post by **destructor** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:24 am

Oh, yes, I see now. I thought that you have all secrets on one page.

sawys · Post by **sawys** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:01 pm

Hi !

It seems that newabo's inp on wardner doesn't respect marp rule :
http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/f/e/f/na ... olf103.zip

He lost because of lack of time (0.01 sec) at the end of the stage 2 ^^

Is it legal or not ?