MAME 0.173 Game Changes

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*** new games
100lions          "100 Lions"
1945kiiio         "1945k III (older, OPCX1 PCB)"
50lionr           "50 Lions Roaring Riches"
5draga            "5 Dragons"
5dragons          "5 Dragons (Demo?)"
5koipp            "5 Koi Power Pay"
adonis6           "Adonis (USA)"
adonishl          "Adonis Hyperlink"
adustcm           "African Dusk Mr Cashman"
aftrhrs           "After Hours"
alchemya          "Alchemy"
altaten           "Alta Tensione (ver. 2.01a)"
amzqnar           "Amazon Queen"
amzteml           "Amazon Temple"
androidp          "Android (prototype, later build)"
apocof            "Apollo Coffee"
arbngts           "Arabian Nights (MK6)"
arbnigar          "Arabian Nights"
arish             "Arishinko"
arwincm           "Arctic Wins"
asnprinc          "Asian Princess"
atkgld            "All The Kings Gold"
badbog            "Bad Bog Draw Poker"
bbustersj         "Beast Busters (Japan, Version 2)"
beavbuk           "Beaver Bucks"
bestria           "Bestri (Korea, set 2)"
bigbenpj          "Big Ben Jackpot"
bigheart          "Big Hearted"
bigredjp          "Big Red Jackpot"
birredar          "Big Red"
blackpnt          "Black Panther (Aristocrat)"
blkbrum           "Black Brumby"
blkmust           "Black Mustang"
bluetigr          "Blue Tiger (20259511)"
bmbgs             "Bumble Bugs (USA)"
bobdolu1          "Bob And Dolly"
bootscot          "Boot Scootin"
brazilar          "Brazil"
bucanar           "Bucaneer"
buckstop          "The Buck Stops Here"
buffalar          "Buffalo (set 2)"
buffaloa          "Buffalo"
bumbugs           "Bumble Bugs"
bushrngr          "Bush Ranger"
butdeli           "Butterfly Delight"
cactusco          "Cactus Corral"
callwlar          "Call Of The Wild"
calyking          "Calypso King"
canary2           "Canary Riches 2"
cashchm           "Cash Chameleon"
cashcroa          "Cash Crop"
chariotca         "Chariot Challenge (0100787V)"
chkmatar          "Checkmate (01J00681)"
chkrun            "Chicken Run"
chmpnuma          "Champion Number (V0.67)"
cinhell           "Chance in Hell"
cmtonig           "Cashman Tonight"
copycat           "Copy Cat (model 7-520)"
copycatm2         "Copy Cat (model 7-522)"
coralr2v          "Coral Riches 2"
corrida           "Corrida De Toros"
crspru            "Crystal Springs (USA)"
cryspri           "Crystal Springs"
crystalc          "Crystals Colours (Ver 1.02)"
csd               "Choy Sun Doa"
csdce             "Choy Sun Doa Cash Express"
cshcat            "Cash Cat (NZ)"
csret             "Choy Sun Returns"
cuckooa           "Cuckoo"
davedrag          "Dave Dragons"
dblagus           "Double agent"
ddpdojblkbl       "DoDonPachi Dai-Ou-Jou (2002.10.07 Black Ver., bootleg Knights of Valour Super Heroes conversion)"
deepfrz           "Deep Freeze"
deltqn            "Delta Queen"
di4ever           "Diamonds Forever"
dinoaris          "Dinosaur"
dltbel            "Delta Belle"
dmddove           "Diamond Dove"
dmneye2           "Diamong Eyes 2"
dmneyeus          "Diamond eyes"
dolptra           "Dolphin Treasure (alt)"
doubdolp          "Double Dolphin"
dragonsh          "Dragon's Heaven (development board)"
drawpka           "Draw Poker"
drfz6us           "Deep Freeze (MK6, USA)"
drgnlrd           "Dragon Lord"
drgnmgic          "Dragon Magic"
drmred            "Dream Of The Red Chamber"
dsaber            "Dragon Saber (World, DO2)"
dstblom           "Desert Bloom"
dyjack            "Dynamite Jack"
eaglrock          "Eagle Rock"
eaglst1           "Eagle Strike (set 1)"
eaglst2           "Eagle Strike (set 2)"
eastland          "Easter Island"
efcashex          "Enchanted Forest Cash Express"
eggsrich          "Eggstreme Riches"
eldora            "El Dorado"
encspela          "Enchanted Spell"
ent6r             "Enchantress 6 Reel"
eott              "Eye Of The Tiger"
epacman2r         "Pac Man 2 (Entex, red Pacman)"
espgalbl          "Espgaluda (2003/10/15 Master Ver, bootleg cartridge conversion)"
eurodsr           "Euro Double Star Record (ver.1.2)"
excitebk          "Vs. Excitebike (set EB4-3 E)"
firedan           "Fire Dancer"
flamolus          "Flames Of Olympus USA (set 1)"
flamolusa         "Flames Of Olympus USA (set 2)"
flamoly           "Flame Of Olympus"
flamoly2          "Flames Of Olympus 2"
followst          "Follow The Stars"
fortath           "Fortune of Athena"
fortela           "Fortune Teller"
foxred            "Foxworthy Redneck"
fphantom          "Phantom (Fidelity)"
frogwld           "Frog Wild"
fscc9             "Sensory Chess Challenger 9"
galaxy2b          "Galaxy II (VFD Rev. B)"
gambjack          "Gambling Jack"
gbmoney           "The Good Bad Money"
geishaar          "Geisha"
genmagi           "Genie Magic"
gldgong           "Golden gong"
gldgong2          "Golden Gong2"
gldincas          "Golden Incas"
gldnflc           "The Golden Fleece"
gnomatw           "Gnome Around The World"
goapear           "Go Ape"
gogreen           "Go For Green"
goldarjp          "Golden Archer Jackpot"
goldinc           "Golden Inca"
goldphm           "Golden Pyramid  Hyper Max"
goldpym           "Golden Pyramids Maximillions"
goldra            "Golden Ra"
goldsam           "Golden Samurai"
grizzly           "Grizzly"
gwnn              "Game With No Name"
heartgar          "Heart Of Gold"
heartveg          "Heart Of Vegas"
highnoar          "High Noon"
hlntry            "Helen Of Troy"
hlsunmon          "Hyperlink Sun and Moon"
holdrma           "Hollywood Dreams"
houhear           "House Of Hearts"
hrttrhb           "Heart Throb"
incachf           "Inca Chief"
incanz            "Inca Sun (NZ)"
incsun            "Inca Sun"
indce             "Indian Dreaming Cash Express"
inddrma           "Indian Dreaming"
indgcm            "Indian Gold Mr Cashman"
indll             "Indian Dreaming Lady Luck"
indprncs          "Indian Princess"
indsc             "Indian Dreaming Second Chance"
indsrp            "Indian Dreaming Super Reel Power"
instantm          "Polaroid Instant Memories"
jailbrar          "Jailbreak"
jefffox           "Jeff Foxworty"
jewelunc          "Jewel Unchantress"
jungleyo          "Jungle (VI3.02)"
kamikazp          "Kamikaze (Potomac Games)"
ketbl             "Ketsui: Kizuna Jigoku Tachi (2003/01/01. Master Ver., bootleg cartridge conversion)"
kgalah            "King Galah (0200536V)"
kgradius          "Gradius (handheld)"
kingnep           "King Neptune"
kingnile          "King Of The Nile"
kingnilea         "King of the Nile (set 2)"
kloneran          "Lone Ranger (handheld)"
koalmnt           "Koala Mint"
kohinoor          "Kohinoor"
kookabk           "Kooka Bucks"
lasthope          "Last Hope (bootleg AES to MVS conversion, no coin support)"
lemrol            "Let Em Roll"
lgfish            "Lets Go Fishin"
lineking          "Line King"
locoloot          "Loco Loot"
loconz            "Loco Loot (NZ)"
lonwolf           "Lone Wolf"
lordleo           "Lord Leopard"
lougcm            "Louies Gold Mr Cashman"
lovestrk          "Love Struck"
luck88            "Lucky 88"
luigball          "Luigis Ball"
lunaprk           "Luna Park (ver. 1.2)"
majest12u         "Majestic Twelve - The Space Invaders Part IV (US)"
majtitl2b         "Major Title 2 (World, set 2)"
mchilli           "More Chilli"
metestrm          "Meteor Storm"
mgctouc           "Magic Touch"
mgforst           "Magic Forrest"
mgmerm            "Magic Mermaid"
milkin            "Milkin It"
mkrep             "Mortal Kombat (Reptile Man hack)"
mnytree           "Money Tree"
monmous           "Money Mouse"
moonwalt          "Moonlight Waltz"
moutmon           "Mountain Money"
mrwoo             "Mr Woo"
mskitty           "Miss Kitty"
mtreenz           "Money Tree (NZ)"
mystarr           "Mystic Arrow"
mysteycm          "Mystic Eyes Mr Cashman"
mysteyec          "Mystic Eyes(Cashman)"
mystgrd           "Mystic Garden"
mystmerm          "Mystic Mermaid"
mystwarra         "Mystic Warriors (ver AAB)"
nerdwild          "Nerds Gone Wild"
new2001           "New 2001 (Italy, Ver. 2.00N)"
nupogodi          "Nu, pogodi!"
opsesam           "Open Sesame"
opwolfp           "Operation Wolf (Japan, prototype)"
orbeaut           "Oriental Beauty"
orchidms          "Orchid Mist"
oscarar           "Oscar"
outbackj          "Outback Jack Jackpot"
outbackja         "Outback Jack (set 2)"
owlcap            "Owl Capone"
pandpays          "Panda Pays"
pantmag           "Panther Magic"
pariligh          "Paris Lights (USA)"
parilius          "Paris Lights"
pc_ttoon          "Tiny Toon Adventures (prototype) (PlayChoice-10)"
pcbydem           "Players Choice By Demand"
pcfav             "Players Choice Favourites (set 1)"
pcfava            "Players Choice Favourites (set 2)"
pckobe99          "Print Club 2 Kobe Luminaire '99 (Print Club Custom 3) (J 991203 V1.000)"
pclub26wa         "Print Club 2 Vol. 6 Winter (J 970121 V1.200)"
pcmostw           "Players Choice Most Wanted"
pcnewz            "Players Choice New Zealand"
pcockmag          "Peacock Magic"
pcpooh2           "Print Club Winnie-the-Pooh Vol. 2 (J 971218 V1.000)"
pcpooh3           "Print Club Winnie-the-Pooh Vol. 3 (J 980406 V1.000)"
peaflut           "Peacock Flutter"
pelipete          "Pelican Pete"
pelpetu2          "Pelican Pete 2"
pelpetus          "Pelican pete"
pengpay           "Penguin Pays"
pennyar           "Penny Arcade"
penpay20          "Penguin Pays (20 Line)"
penpaya           "Penguin Pays (alt)"
penpayus          "Penquin Pays"
petshopa          "Pet Shop"
pharpor           "Pharohs Fortune"
phxfant           "Phoenix Fantasy"
piratar           "Pirates"
pockchal          "Pocket Challenge (Japan)"
pokonyan          "Pokonyan (Japan 940322)"
pompeiar          "Pompei"
pompus2           "Pompeii2"
prc28su           "Print Club 2 Vol. 8 Summer (J 970616 V1.100)"
prc29au           "Print Club 2 Vol. 9 Autumn (J V1.100)"
prc2ksu           "Print Club 2 2000 Summer"
prideaf           "Pride Of Africa"
prophar           "Prophecy"
przfigha          "Prize Fight"
pwsp1             "Players World Super"
qncsh             "Queens of Cash"
qnile             "Queen Of The Nile"
qnilecj           "Queen Of The Nile Clown Jackpot"
qnilese           "Queen of the Nile Special Edition"
qonilea           "Queen Of The Nile (0100439V)"
qonileb           "Queen Of The Nile (0300440V)"
qsheeba           "Queen Of Sheeba"
raidendxja        "Raiden DX (Japan, set 2)"
raprichs          "Rapid Riches"
rdtripus          "Road Trip"
redbarar          "Red Baron (Aristocrat)"
retrsam           "Return Of The Samurai (0400549V)"
retsam20          "Return of The Samura  20line"
retsam5           "Return of The Samura  5line"
robokidj3         "Atomic Robo-kid (Japan)"
rubmgc            "Ruby Magic"
rumbrel           "Rumble  Reels"
ruprup            "Roll Up Roll Up"
rwarhl            "Rainbow Warrior Hyperlink (0101332V)"
sbucks3           "Superbucks 3"
sbuk5             "Super Bucks 5"
scatmg2           "Scatter Magic 2"
sealdeal          "Seal The Deal"
shamnmg           "Shamans Magic"
sharmnm           "Sharmans Magic"
shorthng          "Shore Thing"
silgolar          "Silver And Gold"
silkrdus          "Silk Road"
skydncra          "Sky Dancer"
smtmar            "Show Me The Money"
sonikfig          "Sonik Fighter (encrypted)"
spectred          "Spectrum ED"
spellb79          "Spelling B (1979 version)"
spgcarn           "Spring Carnival"
stardrf2          "Star Drifter 2"
stardrft          "Star Drifter"
stardrfu          "Star Drifter (USA)"
starqst           "Star Quest"
statsymb          "Status Symbols"
sumospin          "Sumo Spins"
sunmon2           "Sun And Moon 2"
sunqndol          "Sun Queen Dollar Storm"
supbuk2           "Superbucks 2"
sushibar          "Sushi Bar"
swh2ld            "Sweet Hearts 2 Lucky Devil"
swhr2us           "Sweethearts 2"
tahitim           "Tahiti Magic"
teamht            "Team Hat Trick"
thaiprar          "Thai Princess"
thndrhrt          "Thunderheart"
tigresar          "Tigress"
tikitalk          "Tiki Talk"
tiktoru           "Tiki Torch"
timwolfu          "Timberwolf"
topbana           "Top Banana"
topshtar          "Topshot"
torgods           "Torch Of The Gods"
torpdice          "Touch Of Paradice"
touchgok          "Touch & Go (Korea, unprotected)"
tretrva           "Treasure Trove"
triptrea          "Triple Treat"
trjhrs            "Trojan Horse"
trkinus           "Treasure King"
turtrea           "Turtle Treasure"
unicornd          "Unicorn Dreaming"
utrn1024          "Unitron 1024"
venetian          "Venetian Nights"
venicus           "Venice"
wboysys2a         "Wonder Boy (system 2, set 2, 315-5176)"
werewild          "Werewolf Wild"
wgorilla          "Wild Gorilla"
whlcshus          "Whales Of Cash (set 1)"
whlcshusa         "Whales Of Cash (set 2)"
whtwtr            "White Water"
wikwin2           "Wicked Winnings 2"
wildbill          "Wild Bill"
wingolus          "Wings Of Olympus"
witgold           "Where Is The Gold"
witgoldd          "Where Is The Gold (Demo)"
wldafus           "Wild Africa"
wldamz1           "Wild Amazon (1 Line)"
wldamz3           "Wild Amazon (3 Lines)"
wldcatsa          "Wild Cats"
wldcoug           "Wild Cougar"
wldgoos           "Wild Goose"
wldpan2           "Wild Panda 2"
wldpntus          "Wild Panthers"
wldstal2          "Wild Stalion 2"
wldthg            "Wild Thing"
wtepee            "Wild Tepee"
wwaratah          "Wild Waratah"
wwaysar           "Wild Ways"
wwaysll           "Wizard Ways Lady Luck"
zorrojp           "Zorro Jackpot"
zorrous           "Zorro"

*** changed long
1945kiii          "1945k III" -> "1945k III (newer, OPCX2 PCB)"
airraid           "Air Raid (encrypted)" -> "Air Raid (Single PCB)"
attckufo          "Attack Ufo" -> "Attack UFO"
bestri            "Bestri (Korea)" -> "Bestri (Korea, set 1)"
brdrlinet         "Borderline (Tranquilizer Gun conversion)" -> "Borderline (Tranquillizer Gun conversion)"
bultrman          "Ultra Man (Bandai)" -> "Ultraman Monster Battle"
cshootere         "Cross Shooter (encrypted)" -> "Cross Shooter (Single PCB)"
epacman2          "Pac Man 2 (Entex)" -> "Pac Man 2 (Entex, cyan Pacman)"
galaxy2           "Galaxy II" -> "Galaxy II (VFD Rev. D)"
ironclad          "Choutetsu Brikin'ger - Iron clad (Prototype)" -> "Choutetsu Brikin'ger - Iron clad (prototype)"
ironclado         "Choutetsu Brikin'ger - Iron clad (Prototype, bootleg)" -> "Choutetsu Brikin'ger - Iron clad (prototype, bootleg)"
jingbell          "Jingle Bell (US, V157)" -> "Jingle Bell (US, V157US)"
jingbella         "Jingle Bell (EU, V155)" -> "Jingle Bell (EU, V155UE)"
jingbellb         "Jingle Bell (EU, V153)" -> "Jingle Bell (EU, V153UE)"
jingbellc         "Jingle Bell (EU, V141)" -> "Jingle Bell (EU, V141UE)"
majtitl2-ac       "Major Title 2 (World) [American Country]" -> "Major Title 2 (World, set 1) [American Country]"
majtitl2-ew       "Major Title 2 (World) [European Woody]" -> "Major Title 2 (World, set 1) [European Woody]"
majtitl2a         "Major Title 2 (World, alt sound CPU)" -> "Major Title 2 (World, set 1, alt sound CPU)"
raidendxj         "Raiden DX (Japan)" -> "Raiden DX (Japan, set 1)"
robokid           "Atomic Robo-kid" -> "Atomic Robo-kid (World, Type-2)"
robokidj          "Atomic Robo-kid (Japan, set 1)" -> "Atomic Robo-kid (Japan, Type-2, set 1)"
robokidj2         "Atomic Robo-kid (Japan, set 2)" -> "Atomic Robo-kid (Japan, Type-2, set 2)"
spyhuntpr         "Spy Hunter (Spain, Tecfri / Recreativos Franco S.A. PCB)" -> "Spy Hunter (Spain, Recreativos Franco S.A., Tecfri PCB)"
suprpool          "Super Pool (9743 rev.01)" -> "Super Pool (ver. 1.2)"
tranqgun          "Tranquilizer Gun" -> "Tranquillizer Gun"
wboyo             "Wonder Boy (set 1, 315-5135)" -> "Wonder Boy (set 2, 315-5135)"
wboysys2          "Wonder Boy (system 2)" -> "Wonder Boy (system 2, set 1, 315-5177)"

*** changed short
crystalc -> crystalca         "Crystals Colours (Ver 1.01)"
excitebk -> excitebkj         "Vs. Excitebike (set EB4-4 A)"
excitebka -> excitebko        "Vs. Excitebike (set EB4-3 ?)"
majest12 -> majest12j         "Majestic Twelve - The Space Invaders Part IV (Japan)"
mystwarra -> mystwarraa       "Mystic Warriors (ver AAA)"
wangmd2b -> wangmid2          "Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 2 (Export) (Rev A) (GDX-0016A)"
wangmid2 -> wangmid2j         "Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 2 (Japan) (GDX-0015)"

*** changed both
androidp -> androidpo         "Android (early build?)" -> "Android (prototype, early build)"
dsaber -> dsabera             "Dragon Saber" -> "Dragon Saber (World, older?)"

[giro-X]

Oh my. Is there a particular reason for having 351 new titles all of a sudden? Still excluding clones of already known games, they really are A LOT.

[giro-X]

Alright, tons of games are said to be manufactured by "Aristocrat", the year is unknown, game not working, sound unimplemented.

[giro-X]

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1945kiiio         "1945k III (older, OPCX1 PCB)"
altaten           "Alta Tensione (ver. 2.01a)"
androidp          "Android (prototype, later build)"
bbustersj         "Beast Busters (Japan, Version 2)"
bestria           "Bestri (Korea, set 2)"
chmpnuma          "Champion Number (V0.67)"
copycat           "Copy Cat (model 7-520)"
copycatm2         "Copy Cat (model 7-522)"
crystalc          "Crystals Colours (Ver 1.02)"
ddpdojblkbl       "DoDonPachi Dai-Ou-Jou (2002.10.07 Black Ver., bootleg Knights of Valour Super Heroes conversion)"
dragonsh          "Dragon's Heaven (development board)"
dsaber            "Dragon Saber (World, DO2)"
epacman2r         "Pac Man 2 (Entex, red Pacman)"
espgalbl          "Espgaluda (2003/10/15 Master Ver, bootleg cartridge conversion)"
eurodsr           "Euro Double Star Record (ver.1.2)"
excitebk          "Vs. Excitebike (set EB4-3 E)"
fphantom          "Phantom (Fidelity)"
fscc9             "Sensory Chess Challenger 9"
galaxy2b          "Galaxy II (VFD Rev. B)"
instantm          "Polaroid Instant Memories"
jungleyo          "Jungle (VI3.02)"
kamikazp          "Kamikaze (Potomac Games)"
ketbl             "Ketsui: Kizuna Jigoku Tachi (2003/01/01. Master Ver., bootleg cartridge conversion)"
kgradius          "Gradius (handheld)"
kloneran          "Lone Ranger (handheld)"
lasthope          "Last Hope (bootleg AES to MVS conversion, no coin support)"
lunaprk           "Luna Park (ver. 1.2)"
majest12u         "Majestic Twelve - The Space Invaders Part IV (US)"
majtitl2b         "Major Title 2 (World, set 2)"
mkrep             "Mortal Kombat (Reptile Man hack)"
mystwarra         "Mystic Warriors (ver AAB)"
new2001           "New 2001 (Italy, Ver. 2.00N)"
nupogodi          "Nu, pogodi!"
opwolfp           "Operation Wolf (Japan, prototype)"
pc_ttoon          "Tiny Toon Adventures (prototype) (PlayChoice-10)"
pckobe99          "Print Club 2 Kobe Luminaire '99 (Print Club Custom 3) (J 991203 V1.000)"
pclub26wa         "Print Club 2 Vol. 6 Winter (J 970121 V1.200)"
pcpooh2           "Print Club Winnie-the-Pooh Vol. 2 (J 971218 V1.000)"
pcpooh3           "Print Club Winnie-the-Pooh Vol. 3 (J 980406 V1.000)"
pockchal          "Pocket Challenge (Japan)"
pokonyan          "Pokonyan (Japan 940322)"
prc28su           "Print Club 2 Vol. 8 Summer (J 970616 V1.100)"
prc29au           "Print Club 2 Vol. 9 Autumn (J V1.100)"
prc2ksu           "Print Club 2 2000 Summer"
raidendxja        "Raiden DX (Japan, set 2)"
robokidj3         "Atomic Robo-kid (Japan)"
sonikfig          "Sonik Fighter (encrypted)"
spectred          "Spectrum ED"
spellb79          "Spelling B (1979 version)"
sushibar          "Sushi Bar"
teamht            "Team Hat Trick"
touchgok          "Touch & Go (Korea, unprotected)"
utrn1024          "Unitron 1024"
wboysys2a         "Wonder Boy (system 2, set 2, 315-5176)"

Had a moment of laughter while deleting all the weird titles... these above are the new games that do not belong to Aristocrat folder.
Now, if someone can also enlighten me about this Aristocrat, that would be marvellous. I smell casino slots anyway.

[mahlemiut]

Yes, I believe they are all slot machines, the sets are from another emulator that specialises in this hardware (Aristocrat MK5/6).

[Haze]

yeah, the Aristocrat stuff is all video slot machines, Aristocrat is / was the major manufacturer of such machines in Australia / New Zealand.

it was thought that only a handful of their games were dumped, but as it turns out actually an awful lot were, they'd just been kept in a private stash until about a year or two ago, at which point they were released / leaked out, but nobody bothered to inform us..

so, a bit late to the party (with a good chance some stuff was lost, because a lot of the links that were posted 2 years ago are now dead) we have the majority listed, in one big batch.

to get the MK5 stuff working we need better Acorn Archimedes emulation.
the MK6 stuff is an SH4 based platform with a PowerVR video chip (so similar to Dreamcast / Naomi, although probably a bit weaker) They need the SH4 MMU emulation improving at least.

[Haze]

in terms of what's actually interesting to play in there?

the new 'androidp' set (which replaces the old androidp set, which is now androidpo) offers significantly different gameplay, but considering it's meant to be a newer version it seems a far weaker / less logical game.

the operation wolf prototype actually plays *properly* unlike the other emulated versions which all have buggy protection emulation and missing events...

touch and go is a volleyball game, I'd actually like to see some replays of that where the special moves get used because I know the vertical scrolling is a bit broken, but haven't a clue how to trigger the special moves to test it.. sound doesn't work 100% but it's playable.

the atomic robokid clone might be interesting because all the versions we had before were marked as 'TYPE-II' on the title screen, this one isn't, and the rom data is much more different to the others, no idea what that means for the actual gameplay tho.

lasthope is an odd one, don't know if you're going to allow competition on it here or not, it was on an arcade (mvs) cartridge for use on arcade hardware, but it's 100% the same as the aes release of the game, it has no coin options or anything, plays identical to the home version.

[Haze]

also note, the 'tourvision' games are now using a software list instead of individual sets (I did actually mean to leave behaviour the same in 0.173 but forgot to check in an updated mame.lst, the change in behaviour could well be permanent tho)

that means MARP will have to decide how to handle them as they all use the base 'tourvis' system with an additional parameter for the game (all previous games are still present, with a few extra ones added)
for example the commandline launch syntax is now
"mame64 tourvis coryoon"

I guess the easiest way is you could treat it like tourvis is a split game?

or just ignore it completely, because they're just home games with a timer unit connected, and we don't even emulate the timer at the moment

[GJTMarper]

or just ignore it completely, because they're just home games with a timer unit connected, and we don't even emulate the timer at the moment

Well, if the games are (in essence) the same as their home console counterparts, is there really a point having them on MARP at all? Longplays and TG cover home consoles just fine, so it would be unnecessary for MARP to cover a game that is just a home console game with a timer attached to it. (This assumes, of course, I haven't misunderstood what Haze is getting at. )

[Haze]

basically Tourvision was like an unofficial version of the Megatech / Playchoice 10 system, but for the PC-Engine

The Megatech / Playchoice-10 game roms (for the actual game part) are *100% identical* to the Megadrive / NES respectively, but in addition there's an extra CPU / monitor that displays a menu with instructions tacked on.

The Tourvision is even less interesting than the MT / PC-10 tho, because the games didn't even have menu roms, just a very basic bios controlling a timer that would reset the system / lock you out if you stopped inserting coins. In the case of the Tourvision we're not even emulating the timer circuit yet.

There are a number of systems in MAME like this. Typically MARP has allowed competition on them. The Tourvision is just the first one it looks like we'll be changing to be treated more like the console part of MAME from a 'how the games are launched' perspective.

In all cases (PC-10, Megatech, Tourvision) you really are just playing console games tho, no different to if you put a coin operated timer circuit on the plug of your console to stop your kids from playing them for too long.

[***PL***]

Haze, thanks for mentioning the TourVision games. I did notice that they had been "deleted", but I never removed them from the MARP database. I think I will leave them in there as separate games for now rather than to create splits.

[giro-X]

Thank you for the clarifications / other facts.