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Hmm yeah that is pretty good quality, looks ok to me. I want to avoid capturing the top part of the MAME window though.Barra wrote:This is my run of Cosmo Gang the Video, with Camtasia used to capture the screen:BBH wrote: Camtasia was choppy as hell even when I set it to 30 fps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nWTNh5v17U
This is the best I could get it, its a little choppy but I think pretty fair for a game with this much movement
Oh I know you've always had problems with bandwidthmahlemiut wrote:The problem I have with using videos, is bandwidth, since down this part of the world, you are charged through the nose for internet traffic.
That is one of the great things about replay files, their size when zipped makes them an easy download, and you get better audio/video quality from running an emulator directly then you do from any video file. The problem is, not everyone is MAME-savvy. "The masses" that might be interested in watching a MAME replay might not have the exact version of MAME (or any version at all), or the romsets required to watch the replay... or even the knowledge of how to setup and play back recordings while also accounting for things like deleting nvram files, etc. A youtube link is universally an easier thing for people to use, and does have one nice advantage over .inp's - it's much easier to skip forward to a certain part you want to see, and you have the option to rewind whereas with MAME you'd have to restart entirely.What's so gawdawful about it? It works fine for me. Yeah you need a lot of hard drive space for raw .avi files, but I've got plenty of space... and new hard drives get cheaper and cheaper these days anyway...Chad wrote:I don't think mame has to do it with aviwrite and that is gawdawful to use and allow space enough for.
You can resize the screen capture window to anything you like, so including the top part is totally your choice.BBH wrote:Hmm yeah that is pretty good quality, looks ok to me. I want to avoid capturing the top part of the MAME window though.Barra wrote:This is my run of Cosmo Gang the Video, with Camtasia used to capture the screen:BBH wrote: Camtasia was choppy as hell even when I set it to 30 fps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nWTNh5v17U
This is the best I could get it, its a little choppy but I think pretty fair for a game with this much movement
Ah yes, audio desynch. I used to fiddle with this stuff like 8 years ago (wow time flies), when capturing video from consoles. Anyway, if you have a good video and the audio is desynched you can fix it if you extract the audio, do "something" and then put it back. I forget what I did exactly but I'm pretty sure it was a basic option in VirtualDub, stretched/compressed the audio, or changed it's frequency or something. Anyway it's very do-able and there are tons of video editing ressources around. http://www.doom9.org/ was where I learned back then, lots of stuff in those forums.BBH wrote: I had the most luck with ZDSoft Screen Recorder, but there's still a tiny problem with it - if you're recording video of a game that doesn't run at 60 fps, then the audio that gets captured will slowly drift off-sync the longer it goes.
Maybe i remember wrong but it was very slow to make the aviwrite and it seemed like it too gigs of space for minutes of recordings. There's no way we could make mass youtube videos that would stick if they are so huge. Well I'm also a newb to video stuff, so perhaps waiting and huge files are the norm. I'll have to try Camtasia.BBH wrote:What's so gawdawful about it? It works fine for me. Yeah you need a lot of hard drive space for raw .avi files, but I've got plenty of space... and new hard drives get cheaper and cheaper these days anyway...Chad wrote:I don't think mame has to do it with aviwrite and that is gawdawful to use and allow space enough for.
You must have missed the bit where I mentioned that you re-encode the video with a separate application (like avidemux or Super)...Chad wrote:Maybe i remember wrong but it was very slow to make the aviwrite and it seemed like it too gigs of space for minutes of recordings. There's no way we could make mass youtube videos that would stick if they are so huge. Well I'm also a newb to video stuff, so perhaps waiting and huge files are the norm. I'll have to try Camtasia.
Yeah, DOSBox works pretty good. I've used it on my laptop with Vista to watch a bunch of old replays form here. I think there's some I still couldn't get to work, but it let me see some I really wanted to watch.mahlemiut wrote:One day, MESS will be able to emulate old DOS versions of MAME... and I might be wrong, but I think DOSBox already can.
Yeah, I tried Virtualdub's stretch audio to video length option, and it didn't really change anything. From what I googled it seemed like people generally don't get good results with itThe_Pro wrote:Ah yes, audio desynch. I used to fiddle with this stuff like 8 years ago (wow time flies), when capturing video from consoles. Anyway, if you have a good video and the audio is desynched you can fix it if you extract the audio, do "something" and then put it back. I forget what I did exactly but I'm pretty sure it was a basic option in VirtualDub, stretched/compressed the audio, or changed it's frequency or something. Anyway it's very do-able and there are tons of video editing ressources around. http://www.doom9.org/ was where I learned back then, lots of stuff in those forums.BBH wrote: I had the most luck with ZDSoft Screen Recorder, but there's still a tiny problem with it - if you're recording video of a game that doesn't run at 60 fps, then the audio that gets captured will slowly drift off-sync the longer it goes.
Ok, forget my babbling about the old days and read the instructions on the 2nd half of this page: http://www.gromkov.com/faq/faq2004-0064.html
Maybe I was supposed to change the audio frequency first and then stretch it, I dunno.Uh... yeah I think you remember wrong, have you used -aviwrite on a recent version of MAME? It's nothing like you're describing. Just playback a recording (or play a game normally if you just want to record play directly but it's probably better to make an .inp first) and let it play back fully with -aviwrite. Once you're done and press Esc you'll have your big-ass uncompressed .avi file. It takes exactly the same amount of time that it would take to play something back and screen record with Fraps or Camtasia or whatever. As long as your computer can handle the whole -aviwrite thing... I don't think my old computer was beefy enough to handle it but my new one is fine.Chad wrote:Maybe i remember wrong but it was very slow to make the aviwrite and it seemed like it too gigs of space for minutes of recordings. There's no way we could make mass youtube videos that would stick if they are so huge. Well I'm also a newb to video stuff, so perhaps waiting and huge files are the norm. I'll have to try Camtasia.
Ah, I also used FRAPS for .106 but when you said it didn't work for "old" MAME versions I assumed the alphamame days. Guess .106 is pretty old too. Anyway, FRAPS is the best really.BBH wrote:Alright I figured out why Fraps wasn't working with MAME 0.106... had to run it full screen with -direct3d on, doesn't work in a window. It captures stuff beautifully with no hiccups or audio desyncs (as far as I can tell), but it doesn't record files larger than 4 gigs, it splits them up. Not really a big deal since the program I'm using to re-encode (AVS Video Converter) joins files together nicely, so it should be fine.
One day, we'll be doing this in MESS... (Well, you can already, with really old versions of MacMAME, back when it was able to run on a 68040)The_Pro wrote:Tried out Dosbox today, ran shock troopers 2nd squad inp no problem. Somehow, the first shock troopers inp on m37b15 still works on Win 7 64bit, which is more than I can say for many more recent versions.
Grab the source from SVN and build your own if you want to test it out now, or wait until MESS 0.144u7 is released.
