Striker 1945 Plus settings?

landshark9 · Post by **landshark9** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:33 pm

What are the appropriate settings for Strikers 1945 Plus?

I thought it used to be Starting with 2 planes in reserve. But when I tried recording recently (Wolf 108) it started with 1 in reserve.

Which is it?

Post by **mahlemiut** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:08 am

Strikers 1945 Plus has always defaulted 2 lives only, with an extend at 600k, I think. As the settings are stored in NVRAM, the game is in control of setting defaults, not MAME. Perhaps the defaults vary across regions?

Kaiser · Post by **Kaiser** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:41 am

Well landshark, if you want to play in original region (japan with 3 lifes) then use japan bios for that, i'm using always japan bios when i play this game

Post by **mahlemiut** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:42 am

Of course, that's not allowable for MARP use, as that is effectively playing it on easier than default settings (Europe BIOS is the default).

GHEMANT · Post by **GHEMANT** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:56 pm

mahlemiut wrote: that's not allowable for MARP use, as that is effectively playing it on easier than default settings (Europe BIOS is the default).

this is my opinion... neo geo games are japanese in original. And to play them in original, Japanese bios is necessary.

For exemple, I play only in Japan version, for neo geo and other games.

All Psikyo games are with 3 lives in default. And striker plus with Europe bios and 2 lives is inacceptable.

Post by **mahlemiut** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:14 pm

MAME uses the Europe (or Asia, whichever it is) BIOS by default. That's what we will use for MARP. If there is no difference in settings or gameplay between the BIOS regions, then you may use the Japanese BIOS. In most cases, though, language is about the only difference between regions, other than the coin slot setup, and that annoying "Winners Don't Use Drugs" thing.

Using anything other than the default BIOS for MARP is certainly not allowed for either Strikers 1945 Plus or Neo Drift Out.

Kaiser · Post by **Kaiser** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:27 am

GHEMANT wrote:
mahlemiut wrote: that's not allowable for MARP use, as that is effectively playing it on easier than default settings (Europe BIOS is the default).
this is my opinion... neo geo games are japanese in original. And to play them in original, Japanese bios is necessary.

For exemple, I play only in Japan version, for neo geo and other games.

All Psikyo games are with 3 lives in default. And striker plus with Europe bios and 2 lives is inacceptable.

I agree with ghemant here, playing on 2 lives isn't fun

Phil Lamat · Post by **Phil Lamat** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:45 am

And I agree with Barry : default is the rule, default bios shall be used if another bios makes things easier (like in Neo Driftout)

landshark9 · Post by **landshark9** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:28 am

Kaiser wrote: All Psikyo games are with 3 lives in default. And striker plus with Europe bios and 2 lives is inacceptable.

I agree with ghemant here, playing on 2 lives isn't fun[/quote]

I fully agree. The 2 life bios version is lame. However, rules are rules =)

Post by **mahlemiut** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:27 am

Go bitch to Psikyo. Just like we do with Konami on pretty much any US versions of their games, which are far less fun than just having one less life.

GHEMANT · Post by **GHEMANT** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:13 am

bios europe is default because who work on mame is european people. I repeat: Strikers is a japanese game and the original version is that Japanese. European version is a true clone.

many games have settings very strange in european version, and difficult top-heavy.

however, if this is the rule for marp......

about the difficult in all games... I not read any rules on marp. Some players use level 8 in some games (metal slug, spin master...) but this is not correct.

Because in 9/10 games high difficult=more points.

If I play metal slug (for exemple) with default settings I obtain 1.500.000 and I finish the game.

another player play this game with difficult 8 and perform 1.550.000 (lost at stage 6). Score is better but replay is poor, and in boty replay the techniques are the same.

If I want a correct comparison between all scores in a single game, these scores must be all with default settings.

Post by **mahlemiut** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:03 am

Players at MARP are welcome to play at harder than default settings. Nothing wrong with trying to score higher by using a higher difficulty.

GHEMANT · Post by **GHEMANT** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:33 am

the purpose to play for hi-score is a comparison with other scores of other players. If each one play with different settings, comparison is impossible and the purpose can't be reached

BBH · Post by **BBH** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:59 am

GHEMANT wrote:the purpose to play for hi-score is a comparison with other scores of other players. If each one play with different settings, comparison is impossible and the purpose can't be reached

again, bitch to Psikyo for making the retarded decision to limit the amount of lives on the European and US bios.

It annoys me that pretty much every Strikers 1945 Plus machine I've ever seen at an arcade was set to 2 lives to start, but it's not like I can do anything about that.

GHEMANT wrote:If I want a correct comparison between all scores in a single game, these scores must be all with default settings.

...and MAME's default setting is to use the European bios. Isn't it going to skew comparisons if everyone is using different bioses?

landshark9 · Post by **landshark9** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:51 pm

mahlemiut wrote:Players at MARP are welcome to play at harder than default settings. Nothing wrong with trying to score higher by using a higher difficulty.

This seems contradictory as you should then be able to play on easier skill levels to yield less points but get further (I know that's not the case).

BBH wrote:It annoys me that pretty much every Strikers 1945 Plus machine I've ever seen at an arcade was set to 2 lives to start, but it's not like I can do anything about that.

Wait. You've actually seen a Strikers 1945 Plus cab in the wild? I haven't seen a shooter outside of mame/PS2 in 2 or 3 years.