Violent Storm

Post by **mahlemiut** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:17 am

http://marp.retrogames.com/inp/e/c/0/lt ... olf104.zip

Looks like multiple button mapping (up+A). Probably wouldn't have noticed so easily if whatever key/button was mapped to it wasn't on autofire, although amittedly, I find it hard to figure how anyone can push any autofire button(s) that last only one frame only, without it repeating often. This inp would otherwise be perfectly legit.

Anyone else agree or disagree?

The TJT · Post by **The TJT** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:06 am

Without going to -iv and multiple mapping...
Analinp suggests there are just too many one frame long pushes at bits 91,93 and 159. Also distribution of pushes seems unbalanced.

Would seem as someone had used autofire on some pushes of a button, but at some pushes of the same button would have played normally.

So I agree it looks like autofire was used.

I find it hard to figure how anyone can push any autofire button(s) that last only one frame only, without it repeating often

A controller macro?

destructor · Post by **destructor** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:34 am

The TJT wrote:A controller macro?

Yes, its possible. Is possible to make controller where you don't detect autofire or button mapping. I know about it

EDIT
http://marp.retrogames.com/index.cgi?mo ... xlines=999
I see:
1st player -> Ittaiwo
2nd player -> Ittaiwo2

This is the same player? mmxx, can you correct it?

The TJT · Post by **The TJT** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:31 am

destructor wrote:Is possible to make controller where you don't detect autofire or button mapping. I know about it

I think anykind of autofire/multimapping can be detected. It's just a matter of how a clever program or how thorough methods of checking are used.

Is it I-know-how-to-cheat-and-not-get-caught-confessions-day today?

destructor · Post by **destructor** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:46 am

The TJT wrote:
destructor wrote:Is possible to make controller where you don't detect autofire or button mapping. I know about it
I think anykind of autofire/multimapping can be detected. It's just a matter of how a clever program or how thorough methods of checking are used.

Is it I-know-how-to-cheat-and-not-get-caught-confessions-day today?

You can still made some electronics which will hide autofire/multimapping. It will generate signal that don't detect any test program. Random signal, random autofire, random time difference in autofire, random time difference in button multimapping. Maybe it's very hard to use with keyboards but very easy with joysticks/pads. Yes, it is possible.
I don't use it

The TJT · Post by **The TJT** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:06 am

I guess that would be possible. A wise man once said: "If you're clever enough to cheat uncaught...you're clever enough not to cheat"

mmxx · Post by **mmxx** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:33 am

destructor wrote:
The TJT wrote:A controller macro?
Yes, its possible. Is possible to make controller where you don't detect autofire or button mapping. I know about it

EDIT
http://marp.retrogames.com/index.cgi?mo ... xlines=999
I see:
1st player -> Ittaiwo
2nd player -> Ittaiwo2

This is the same player? mmxx, can you correct it?

sorry,I 'm late ,because I just finish my homework,I'm a student

Yes.he is very good play about this game,He only play this game!!
You can look at about all his Movies at

http://www4.emu-zone.org/corner/search. ... &type=info

He is a really mad man about this game....
He said to me No autofire, But I'm not sure if he use mutiple buttons

Phil Lamat · Post by **Phil Lamat** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:47 am

destructor wrote:1st player -> Ittaiwo
2nd player -> Ittaiwo2

This is the same player? mmxx, can you correct it?

Same mail, so this is the same player ;
I guess we can erase the account for weakest score (Ittaiwo) and keep the other one (Ittaiwo2) ?

destructor · Post by **destructor** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:55 am

mmxx wrote:
destructor wrote:
The TJT wrote:A controller macro?
Yes, its possible. Is possible to make controller where you don't detect autofire or button mapping. I know about it

EDIT
http://marp.retrogames.com/index.cgi?mo ... xlines=999
I see:
1st player -> Ittaiwo
2nd player -> Ittaiwo2

This is the same player? mmxx, can you correct it?
sorry,I 'm late ,because I just finish my homework,I'm a student
Yes.he is very good play about this game,He only play this game!!
You can look at about all his Movies at

http://www4.emu-zone.org/corner/search. ... &type=info

He is a really mad man about this game....
He said to me No autofire, But I'm not sure if he use mutiple buttons

Remeber, on MARP -> one account = one player. Not 2 accounts, 1 player.