PRE POLL discussion: Mame versions allowed at marp, no u's

Post by **mahlemiut** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:58 pm

There will never be a 1.0, that much is certain. 0.100 will follow 0.99, and anyone saying that that is the same as 0.1 should be shot.

LN2 · Post by **LN2** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:50 pm

The TJT wrote:This discussion is mainly about allowing, or not allowing use of unofficial "u" -update mame versions.

yes, and that is exactly why I replied...cuz all of the recent official MacMAME versions are all "u" versions.

I haven't seen a version without a "u" for a very long time....maybe have to go back to 0.60 or 0.66 in MacMAME to have no "u".

I agree on the PC side though if they have for example 0.77u1, 0.77u2, 0.77u2a then 0.77 that only 0.77 be accepted...none of those other earlier builds of 0.77 etc.

Post by **mahlemiut** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:02 pm

Those are later builds - and I've never heard of 0.77u2a either...

QRS · Post by **QRS** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:21 pm

***PL*** wrote:
QRS wrote: I have to admit that there are a lot of U's before the official builds, but that is not any different than the old system with 37b3, 37b4 etc.
Not true!! Those releases were essentially monthly updates over at least a year. In fact they were pretty much renamed to m38 to m52...

With the m94u1, that is a weekly or twice-weekly release. VERY DIFFERENT!!

Pretty soon we'll see mame 0.99.01 u1

If you quote the whole text you'll see this:

I have to admit that there are a lot of U's before the official builds, but that is not any different than the old system with 37b3, 37b4 etc. We all admited these versions (even if they were not released this fast!!)

I agree that the releases are fast, but I still don't see any reason for only using "official" versions.

destructor · Post by **destructor** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:22 pm

If is possible to use other MAME clones (ex. EKMAME, MAMEPLUS,...) then why don't use U versions?

Weehawk · Post by **Weehawk** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:36 pm

destructor wrote:If is possible to use other MAME clones (ex. EKMAME, MAMEPLUS,...) then why don't use U versions?

Good question.

The TJT · Post by **The TJT** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:57 pm

destructor wrote:If is possible to use other MAME clones (ex. EKMAME, MAMEPLUS,...) then why don't use U versions?

But why would you want to use them Des?

The TJT · Post by **The TJT** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:18 pm

rom changes between u's could be a problem when playbacking. Also downloading and FINDING those versions after some time will be tough.

QRS · Post by **QRS** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:16 pm

094u5 is out

destructor · Post by **destructor** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:41 am

The TJT wrote:
destructor wrote:If is possible to use other MAME clones (ex. EKMAME, MAMEPLUS,...) then why don't use U versions?
But why would you want to use them Des?

No, I don't want to use them

I only ask why don't use if these versions are available to download. We can remove U versions from list on submit form but players can submit inps made in U versions and from list can choose "other mame version" and in description write "mame 94u4". And what then? We delete this inp if it show excellent play?

For me U version can be disallowed, but this have no sense to delete excellent scores made in U versions.

Maybe I'm wrong?

The TJT · Post by **The TJT** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:49 pm

Well, I tried googling for u -versions...and I didn't find them.
I'm only trying to make playback more easy for us.
We don't delete old recordings using u's. If someone submits at marp using one, that gets zeroed, and you can still watch it, if you find the exotic version that was used. (think about mameanalog 91u1 etc...)

I was thinking about a new rule as:

Code: Select all

3a. Use of Wolf- or TGMAME is preferred.
MAME u, -update versions are not allowed if your operating system has more official versions available.

First line is to write something that already is a custom at marp. So I think that could be written in the rules no matter what the poll outcome is.

U- part is the actual stuff we are voting on. To make playback easier. +you shouldn't use u's anyway, but wait for wolfmame release.
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Does it make sense? My choose of words sucks, I know...
Poll in 24 hours.

QRS · Post by **QRS** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:32 pm

For the latest builds of official and unofficial Mame versions:

http://redump.emubase.de/mame.php

Great place with fast updates.

And of course:

http://www.classicgaming.com/mame32qa/

for the mame gui version only

Also very fast with updates after a release.

I always go to these places for a new mame version.

The TJT · Post by **The TJT** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:41 pm

Thx, couldn't find older u's there. I do admit being enough "warez kiddy" though to sometimes "test" latest unofficial releases.

Also for mame32 older builds:
http://mame.joymonkey.com/mame32/index.html

Most importantly
http://wolfmame.marpirc.net/