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i think you guys answered my question as YES even though you said no. when i meant both players scored the same olympic score i meant they did exactally the same things, the player playing with out the nvram actually placed the pole in the right position or did the exact same moves to get the mole score but didn't really get it because they didn't have the right starting nvram. so if they did exactlaly the same moves, the player recording with out the nvram would actually get the mole scores if the recording was adjusted for mole timing and playedback with an nvram. Is that right?
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Chad wrote:i think you guys answered my question as YES even though you said no. when i meant both players scored the same olympic score i meant they did exactally the same things, the player playing with out the nvram actually placed the pole in the right position or did the exact same moves to get the mole score but didn't really get it because they didn't have the right starting nvram. so if they did exactlaly the same moves, the player recording with out the nvram would actually get the mole scores if the recording was adjusted for mole timing and playedback with an nvram. Is that right?
With the question worded that way I believe the answer is YES. In your original question you said Player 2 was "not playing for moles with out an nvram", which made me think that Player 2 wasn't bothering to try and get moles (and therefore playing the pole vault differently) but Player 1 was trying.

I'm pretty sure that your current score doesn't have any effect on the gameplay (it doesn't get progressively harder based on a higher score, just based on round and event). But, without actually trying it with some sort of hacked INP its difficult to say with 100% certainty.

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thanks for verifing. :)
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Nice score Adi. Thinking about coming out of 'retirement' :)

I just gotta get me fingers working again...


Rick: for information regarding Kelly K's score, if you can get in touch with Darren Harris , he is the one who has recently been in touch with Kelly. He'll have some answers for you.

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mahlemiut wrote:I seem to remember that NVRAM doesn't cause playbackability issues with Hyper Sports - ie: you could playback an INP recorded without NVRAM, using NVRAM and it'd still playback, just with a different score. This was a looooong time ago, and I'm unsure if this is still the case.
My recent recording doesn't play back correctly without the exact nvram I used - that was in wm83

TJTs 447k plays back with or without his nvram - I haven't tried it with 'any' nvram tho....

If there's a tape of KK getting the record I'd love to see that :)

AL you should get playing - 450k @ 50 swimming without NV?! OUCH
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dskys, your upload says you recorded with mame83 which is not Wolfmame. While you're editing that you could also put the correct nvram in the zip file and perhaps a short readme describing how someone can replay the inp eg. "copy hyperspt.nv to the nvram folder and use the -allownvram switch". Then reupload the whole shebang.

No wonder nobody can play it back as it stands!

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Very disappointing decision, politics is more important than what players like.

It was not only about score.
Now playing pole first round will require only getting as high as possible, there is no skill in that. Good timing at pole is the most essential way to get points at HS.
What comes to score, you can't compete at Marp and TG same time now, since there will propably be playback problems.
My score of 447010 playsback to 416010 without any nv. Without nv, mame36 lists all records as 0,00. Most mame versions use default records, with those mame versions and no nv my score would be one thousand higher...That inp does not playback with default nv/records though.

I feel an essential part of the game is taken away.
I have no fun displaying such score that it never really was.
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In a nutshell I have registered onto this forum and love the fact that everyones talking about this 21 year old arcade game, basically me and my sad pals know everything you could possibly need to Know

There are lots of "facts" flying about, just to clarify one of them 5.95 is possible on the first round

HFX top score is 868,00 (this is also best score ever seen)
failed to Qualify 6th Round Triple Jump which was 19.00m

best arcade records ever seen
SWIM
1. 44.42 HFX

SKEET (Can hit 22,000 on 1st round)

1.HFX 23000 2. HFX 22700 3. HFX 22700

HORSE

1.HFX 9.90 (Landed 17 spins)

Archery

1. HFX 11800( JUST TWICE)

TRIP

1. 19.39 HFX

WEIGHT

2X 335 (TOUCHING 1950 cm/sec)
670 kg

Pole

1. 5.96 HFX



This is arcade not mame YES ARCADE, we toured most uk coastal arcades in the 80's & early 90's

best score from 1st round 196,00

If you finf this hard to beleive please contact

I am also intriguied that the muck talked about swimming cheat is the same one used in the arcades, I do have to mame emulator, but speed dosen't seem as achievable.

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Jon,

Nice to hear from you!

Hey, we also toured the UK. Mainly Blackpool and parts of London.
I say "we", as in two Irish lads.

We thought we were the best until we ventured into some arcade in Blackpool, were we seen some amazing records by some Scottish guys.

It turns out after all those years that I finally got in touch with one of those guys. His name is ***** *****. He asked me not to reveal his name until he wanted to do so.

I believe him. Although, as I informed him, the MAME scene is different in a way, ie controls.

What controls do you have for MAME?

I'm sure you are aware that the official World Record for Hypersports is 538k? Yeah...I know.

And apparently, the Swimming 'cheat' WAS available in arcades.....


Good records by HFX.

But to be recognised by TG, you must play solo.

Have a look at this.....


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335kg x 2?? Weight-lifting?

How on Earth?



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Oh btw.....

Those jumps were acheived using non-cheating methods.(speed cheats?)
You've just gotta take my word for it.


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If any of you seen '72 speed boosts' on STUN Runner on Blackpool Pier (Central?).....that was me!!

Didn't have the high score, cos I didn't continue, but whooped the 'Speed Boost Challenge' anyhow.

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AL wrote:335kg x 2?? Weight-lifting?

How on Earth?



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well in truth we actually lifted a 340 but never twice in a row always to tired for the 2nd, this was 2 of us one using the 8 finger roll technique the other using the old piston left finger right finger style, pressed up to 1950-1980 cm/sec, this was peformed on a standard arcade machine

what was you pb ?
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AL wrote:Jon,

Nice to hear from you!

Hey, we also toured the UK. Mainly Blackpool and parts of London.
I say "we", as in two Irish lads.

We thought we were the best until we ventured into some arcade in Blackpool, were we seen some amazing records by some Scottish guys.

It turns out after all those years that I finally got in touch with one of those guys. His name is ***** *****. He asked me not to reveal his name until he wanted to do so.

I believe him. Although, as I informed him, the MAME scene is different in a way, ie controls.

What controls do you have for MAME?

I'm sure you are aware that the official World Record for Hypersports is 538k? Yeah...I know.

And apparently, the Swimming 'cheat' WAS available in arcades.....


Good records by HFX.

But to be recognised by TG, you must play solo.

Have a look at this.....


Cheers,

AL
Hey, thanks for the imput I reckon its the same scottish dudes that we met we HFX as I recall had most of the monoply in Blackpool as I recall, however JGR (from paisley, Glasgow) gave us a run for our money 21200 on skeets 5.95 on Pole 166k from a 1 rounder, there was also another Jock POL who could play, plus a Blackpool Lad -> KWW who could lift 280 kg by himself, impressive. what did you guys sign on as and did you play track & field ? and what were your pb's ?
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