As I have said before...MARP is MARP. TG is TG. We do NOT need to have a level playing field.dskys wrote:To challenge TG it is necessary - I accept that now
To challenge here it's necessary.
Yes they are separate and a ruling here does not affect TG, but level playing fields and all that.
Although here is an interesting note. I am 99% sure TG will accept nvram for HS. MARP allows "TG" scores on the MARP scoreboard showing TG in the description. In these cases, the games are played under TG settings and rules...not MARPs. So even if MARP doesn't allow nvram here, it seems all a player needs to do is play by the TG settings and uploads their score to MARP with "TG" in the description. That allows them to use a TG provided nvram file.
There is your conflict IMHO. If nvram for HS isn't allowed at MARP, then a special rule needs to be made clearly stating this...and that TG submissions for the game are not allowed.
If MARP doesn't want to use nvram that's fine. If the MARP current scores were using nvram, then they should be rewatched without using any nvram and their scores adjusted accordingly. The other option for MARP is to accept the nvram used and supplied by each player and if it plays back to their submitted score, then it stands. That of course would require a special rule for HS.
Again, NONE of that has anything to do with TG. A player above wants to go for the TG-world record for HS. That's great. I am only trying to find out what the rules and basis for competition at HS should be so this can be done.
Even if MARP ends up accepting nvram for HS, odds are each player would have their own versus all being required to use the same nvram file. As a TG ref I would find this unacceptable for TG...cuz given it's possible to have a fair and level playing field in this competition of HS scores in MAME by just having all use the same nvram file, then TG would have a standard nvram file for players to use....and what TG ref(s) would use for verification.
It makes things a lot easier...and more fair for the players. Unfortunately this likely isn't the case for the arcade scores for HS as the pole vault records likely were different between different machines...thus potentially affecting one's score versus another. If TG has the tapes for any of these they can be checked for this....with IMHO potential adjustment of scores to standardized them to a set of pole vault records.
I think I will start and move this to the TG forums. I was posting here cuz most of the top HS players are here....not at the TG forums.