MAME 0.80 Game Changes

[***PL***]

*** new originals
4in1boot "4-in-1 bootleg"
bongo "Bongo"
botanic "Botanic"
botss "Battle of the Solar System"
bullsdrt "Bulls Eye Darts"
cbaj "Cool Boarder Arcade Jam"
dcheese "Double Cheese"
f15se "F-15 Strike Eagle"
gslugrsj "Great Sluggers (Japan)"
ksayakyu "Kusayakyuu"
lethalen "Lethal Enforcers (US ver UAE)"
madalien "Mad Alien"
mjelctrn "Mahjong Electron Base (parts 2 & 4, Japan)"
neruton "Mahjong Neruton Haikujirada (Japan)"
psyfrcex "Psychic Force EX (?)"
quaquiz2 "Quadro Quiz II"
quasar "Quasar"
quiz365 "Quiz 365 (Japan)"
radikalb "Radikal Bikers"
shngmtkb "Shanghai Matekibuyuu"
spacelnc "Space Launcher"
speedup "Speed Up"
stankatk "Super Tank Attack (prototype?)"
surfplnt "Surf Planet"
talbot "Talbot"
wiggie "Wiggie Waggie"
zintrckb "Zintrick / Oshidashi Zentrix (hack / bootleg)"

*** new clones
area51a "Area 51 (Oct 25, 1995)" [area51]
atetrsb2 "Tetris (bootleg set 2)" [atetris]
battlegc "Battle Garegga (Austria / Hong Kong) (Sat Feb 3 1996)" [battleg]
fx "F-X" [srdmissn]
galagao "Galaga (Namco)" [galaga]
galagamk "Galaga (Midway set 2)" [galaga]
hunchbkg "Hunchback (Galaxian hardware)" [hunchbak]
kungfuta "Kung-Fu Taikun (alt)" [kungfut]
lethalej "Lethal Enforcers (Japan ver JAD)" [lethalen]
mjelct3 "Mahjong Electron Base (parts 2 & 3, Japan)" [mjelctrn]
mjelct3a "Mahjong Electron Base (parts 2 & 3, alt., Japan)" [mjelctrn]
mtlchmpu "Martial Champion (US ver UAD)" [mtlchamp]
quasara "Quasar (Alternate)" [quasar]
s1945a "Strikers 1945 (Alt)" [s1945]
samsho3a "Samurai Shodown III / Samurai Spirits - Zankurou Musouken (set 2)" [samsho3]
sfevrbwa-a "Space Fever (black and white set 2) [Game A]" [spacefev]
sfevrbwa-b "Space Fever (black and white set 2) [Game B]" [spacefev]
sfevrbwa-c "Space Fever (black and white set 2) [Game C]" [spacefev]
soulclba "Soul Calibur (SOC11/VER.A2)" [soulclbr]
spacefva-a "Space Fever (color set 2) [Game A]" [spacefev]
spacefva-b "Space Fever (color set 2) [Game B]" [spacefev]
spacefva-c "Space Fever (color set 2) [Game C]" [spacefev]
sslama "Super Slam (alt)" [sslam]
sstrikra "Sorcer Striker (World, alt)" [mahoudai]
timeplta "Time Pilot (Atari)" [timeplt]
tmntua "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (US 4 Players, set 2)" [tmnt]
viofighu "Violence Fight (US)" [viofight]
zoom909 "Zoom 909" [buckrog]

*** changed short
quiz365 -> quiz365t "Quiz 365 (Hong Kong & Taiwan)"

*** changed long
area51 "Area 51" -> "Area 51 (Nov 15, 1995)"
aquarush "Aqua Rush (AQ1/VER.A)" -> "Aqua Rush (AQ1/VER.A1)"
atetrisb "Tetris (bootleg)" -> "Tetris (bootleg set 1)"
cryptklr "Crypt Killer (ver. UAA)" -> "Crypt Killer (GQ420 UAA)"
digdug "Dig Dug (set 1)" -> "Dig Dug (rev 2)"
digdugb "Dig Dug (set 2)" -> "Dig Dug (rev 1)"
fgtlayer "Fighting Layer (FTL1/VER.A)" -> "Fighting Layer (FTL0/VER.A)"
galaga "Galaga (Namco)" -> "Galaga (Namco rev. B)"
galagamw "Galaga (Midway)" -> "Galaga (Midway set 1)"
mdhorse "Derby Quiz My Dream Horse (MDH1/VER.A)" -> "Derby Quiz My Dream Horse (MDH1/VER.A2)"
mrdrillr "Mr Driller (DRI1/VER.A)" -> "Mr Driller (DRI1/VER.A2)"
pacapp "Paca Paca Passion (PPP1/VERA)" -> "Paca Paca Passion (PPP1/VER.A2)"
poleps2b-fuji "Pole Position II (Atari bootleg 1) [Fuji]" -> "Pole Position II (bootleg) [Fuji]"
poleps2b-seas "Pole Position II (Atari bootleg 1) [Seaside]" -> "Pole Position II (bootleg) [Seaside]"
poleps2b-suzu "Pole Position II (Atari bootleg 1) [Suzuka]" -> "Pole Position II (bootleg) [Suzuka]"
poleps2b-test "Pole Position II (Atari bootleg 1) [Test]" -> "Pole Position II (bootleg) [Test]"
rushatck "Rush'n Attack" -> "Rush'n Attack (US)"
samsho3 "Samurai Shodown III / Samurai Spirits - Zankurou Musouken" -> "Samurai Shodown III / Samurai Spirits - Zankurou Musouken (set 1)"
sfeverbw-a "Space Fever (black and white) [Game A]" -> "Space Fever (black and white set 1) [Game A]"
sfeverbw-b "Space Fever (black and white) [Game B]" -> "Space Fever (black and white set 1) [Game B]"
sfeverbw-c "Space Fever (black and white) [Game C]" -> "Space Fever (black and white set 1) [Game C]"
soulclbr "Soul Calibur (SOC1/VER.A)" -> "Soul Calibur (SOC14/VER.C)"
spacefev-a "Space Fever (color) [Game A]" -> "Space Fever (color set 1) [Game A]"
spacefev-b "Space Fever (color) [Game B]" -> "Space Fever (color set 1) [Game B]"
spacefev-c "Space Fever (color) [Game C]" -> "Space Fever (color set 1) [Game C]"
sws99 "Super World Stadium '99 (SS91/VER.A)" -> "Super World Stadium '99 (SS91/VER.A3)"
tekken3 "Tekken 3 (TET1/VER.E)" -> "Tekken 3 (TET1/VER.E1)"
tmntu "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (US 4 Players)" -> "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (US 4 Players, set 1)"
tryout "Pro Yakyuu Nyuudan Test Tryout (JPN Ver.)" -> "Pro Baseball Skill Tryout (Japan)"

*** deletions
galagads "Galaga (fast shoot)"
galagab2 "Galaga (bootleg)"
galaga84 "Galaga '84"
nebulbee "Nebulous Bee"
poleps2c-fuji "Pole Position II (Atari bootleg 2) [Fuji]"
poleps2c-seas "Pole Position II (Atari bootleg 2) [Seaside]"
poleps2c-suzu "Pole Position II (Atari bootleg 2) [Suzuka]"
poleps2c-test "Pole Position II (Atari bootleg 2) [Test]"

[Buttermaker]

*** new originals
4in1boot "4-in-1 bootleg"

That one got removed.

[The TJT]

Question about deletions...what it means, what is actually done?

*** new clones
galagao "Galaga (Namco)" [galaga]
galagamk "Galaga (Midway set 2)" [galaga]


*** changed long
galaga "Galaga (Namco)" -> "Galaga (Namco rev. B)"
galagamw "Galaga (Midway)" -> "Galaga (Midway set 1)"


*** deletions
galagads "Galaga (fast shoot)"
galagab2 "Galaga (bootleg)"
galaga84 "Galaga '84"
nebulbee "Nebulous Bee"

So we have 2 new Galaga clones.
I see there are still scores for those "deletions" at Marp +I can submit with mame78 AND MAME80? So what is deleted...and why?
Have those been removed from mame, but not from marp?(which is ok, don't want recordings deleted if clone is removed from mame, if that is the case maybe there could be a special rule that tells us when the game was still in mame.)
But then why can I submit with wolf80?...

Only thing I can see changed with these "deleted" games is that there is no picture ie "no shot available"...why?

Also they are not linked as Galaga clones anymore...when I click Galaga or Galaga clone picture I should get all Galaga clones +original listed(which is very nice feature of Marp).
Maybe this is because those games "deleted" don't have picture now and linking is somehow connected to that

So is everything ok with these deletions and what actually changed and why? Is there need for "deletions"???

I'd understand if shortname of the game was changed at mame and old name would be deleted at marp after creating new name for changed, but now I'm all s

Thank you,

TJT


P.S.

"changed the short name from 'galagads' to 'deleted': "Edit your recording's short name to be 'deleted' to get rid of it"

you already have 1551010, which is higher than 100
Changes applied successfully."
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Wondered what damn score is that 1551010 for galagads, never submitted at galagads before...So it must be my highest "deleted" score, hehehe

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[Weehawk]

But then why can I submit with wolf80?...

You can't play

galagads "Galaga (fast shoot)"
galagab2 "Galaga (bootleg)"
galaga84 "Galaga '84"
or nebulbee "Nebulous Bee"

with .80

much less record or submit an inp with them, correct?

[The TJT]

But then why can I submit with wolf80?...

You can't play

Hehe, yes, if can not play with mame80, then can not also submit with it. My question was related to what did "deletions" change exactly.

I hope Pat answers my questions.

[***PL***]

But then why can I submit with wolf80?...

You can't play

galagads "Galaga (fast shoot)"
galagab2 "Galaga (bootleg)"
galaga84 "Galaga '84"
or nebulbee "Nebulous Bee"

with .80

much less record or submit an inp with them, correct?

Correct you cannot (as of MAME 0.80) play or submit INPs for any of these.

[***PL***]

Hehe, yes, if can not play with mame80, then can not also submit with it. My question was related to what did "deletions" change exactly.

I hope Pat answers my questions.

OK, you've already discovered the "galagads" thread, so let's switch over and keep the discussion there.

[Phil Lamat]

I have a problem with hthero93/cupfinal : they were working fine in 79 and now with 80, when the game starts, I've an error message (see pic)

Somebody knows what's happening ?

[Phil Lamat]

After a big discuss with Barry & JTC, I found what was wrong : error came from the "mame.ini" file ; it was good with wolf79 & needed to be erased with wolf80

Don't ask me why, no idea

To come back to the thread, maybe 2 games need a split :
bullsdrt (3games) & surfplnt (several courses)