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Novice wrote: congratulations for your fourth nick-name.
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IGNORANT ASSHOLE
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and a LIAR. what is your favorite?
Ignorant asshole is my favourite...hahhhaaa, this is truly one of those entertaining threads again. Not really.

My question is: Is it really allowed to use those kind of labels for somebody at this forum?

I can understand some swearing in a fucking heated discussion, but that is too common language from Novice here. Those phrases have nothing to do in a cleverly argumented discussion. I don't see LN2/Rick use language like that...he has done once or twice earlier...after hearing same kind of crap for weeks/months from Novice.

I also have other question:

"What kind of asshole lives in Seattle and can't swim?"

............No no no....I mean.... What kind of idiot would put Defcon in his sig, and even use it?
Other thing is that not everything in the world have 7 steps, DEFCON has only 5 levels, atleast according to a movie quoted few lines up my post. Oh yes, and DEFCON has picture of Ronald Reagan next to it.
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tar wrote:I did a find files for Rick Carter on scores 3 document.
I guess by scores 3 document you mean the top3 link?

If you have on a modem, I guess it likely is faster(still slow though hehe) to just download that versus click my name from a search result to get all of my scores listed...cuz then you have all those screenshots too.

Ones you can even watch on PCMAME are my Nibbler inps.

I have good scores for Tapper, Punchout and many other golden classics.
LN2 you are totally awesome at video games
I have respect now,
why hide your identity?
First, thx. :D

Second, in what way is Rick Carter as my long name for the scoreboard hiding my identity?

Fine, perhaps I don't use Rick Carter or an obvious variant for the forums. However, I am using my short login name for the forums so anyone could easily do that search on the scoreboard and see who I am and my scores. I'm not hiding anything.

FYI, at the TG forums I'm permafrostrick.
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Nope, no 3 or 5 man limit on that one. You play it until your game is over.

That one is tougher than regular qbert. Plus you only earn an extra man every 20 k and stop earning them at 190k or something like that so you only have 12 or 13 men total for the game anyway.

Try it. It's a quite tough variant of qbert.

It's not as ridiculous as sqbert gets, but it's pretty close in difficulty overall.
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mahlemiut wrote:
LN2 wrote:I had given an inp where I set 2.3 million on the first try of warping. It's not my fault you don't have access to a mac to view the inp.
I think I can predict Hisa's response...

Something like: "2.3m is not 9.9m. No complain until you get 9.9m"
Marlemiut, you had better understand "LIAR IS A LIAR AND NEVER CHANGES".

I will say "2.3m is not 9.9m" for the player who can get 2.3M.
(by the way, 1 second is worth 75K points.so 60 seconds is 3M.
If you need 10M, then must stay 3minutes=180 seconds for sweet spot.
10 years are not enough for complaining loser is not biased opinion.
in otherword, he must finish special course within 4minutes or so.(=impossible)
if you obsess enough knowledge, will be able to understand difference between possible and impossible.
when complaining loser's opinion and great info-supplyer's opinion is defference,
I certain 100% info supplyer's opinion is right. )


viewtopic.php?t=10179&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60
"1585980" is not 2.3m. :wink:
this type of men like LN2 tend to try to down other skill and told a lie.
it never changes. :lol: :lol:

we should give up. :lol: :lol:
LN2 never changes. just a poor complaining liar. bye!
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Novice wrote:
mahlemiut wrote:
LN2 wrote:I had given an inp where I set 2.3 million on the first try of warping. It's not my fault you don't have access to a mac to view the inp.
I think I can predict Hisa's response...

Something like: "2.3m is not 9.9m. No complain until you get 9.9m"
viewtopic.php?t=10179&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60
"1585620" is not 2.3m. :wink:
this type of men like LN2 tend to try to down other skill and told a lie.
it never changes. :lol: :lol:

we should give up.
Actually the score in the snapshot appears to me to read 1,585,980, but why quibble over trifles?
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I had done a 2+ million run also...but only offered a URL for the inp for that one. Novice of course still called me a liar over that one too and complained once again that I am a liar and cheater for whatever reasons.

Novice, you seem to keep repeating the same crap over and over again...exactly what a complainer does.

You assume others are cheating and lying about scores and stuff even though you have ZERO proof. That's fine, but don't keep gabbing and complaining about your own personal attitude problems with others.

Anyway, after his response to that, I felt it was pointless to continue to try to get higher or reach 9.9 million. It's a pointless way to play the game. It destroys the game playing it that way. It's not how the game should be played and I didn't feel doing so would be any kind of accomplishment.

Novice plays games by any rules he wants and can get away with. That's his style and that's fine. However, I am a real gamer...playing games by the designed and intended rules of the game.

Anyone that watches a pc-mame inp of the 9.9 million run at Cameltry or especially Novice's inp which was something around 2-3 million will quickly see it requires very little skill to do compared to aspects of playing the game as intended.

It's a trick....simple as that. Tricks like that are cool but have no place on a scoreboard...so I'm not about to "contribute" to the scoreboard by playing the game in that manner.
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already no one hear liars worthless opinion.
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The TJT wrote:
Novice wrote: congratulations for your fourth nick-name.
MACMAMECHEATER
IGNORANT ASSHOLE
COMPLAINING LOSER
and a LIAR. what is your favorite?
Ignorant asshole is my favourite...hahhhaaa, this is truly one of those entertaining threads again. Not really.

My question is: Is it really allowed to use those kind of labels for somebody at this forum?

I can understand some swearing in a fucking heated discussion, but that is too common language from Novice here. Those phrases have nothing to do in a cleverly argumented discussion. I don't see LN2/Rick use language like that...he has done once or twice earlier...after hearing same kind of crap for weeks/months from Novice.

I also have other question:

"What kind of asshole lives in Seattle and can't swim?"

............No no no....I mean.... What kind of idiot would put Defcon in his sig, and even use it?
Other thing is that not everything in the world have 7 steps, DEFCON has only 5 levels, atleast according to a movie quoted few lines up my post. Oh yes, and DEFCON has picture of Ronald Reagan next to it.
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Ahem....Hisa-Chan is nearly correct . There are seven levels of alerts . But only five are 'DEFCON' .

See below .

DEFCON DEFense CONdition
In the event of a national emergency, a series of seven different alert Conditions (LERTCONs) can be called. The 7 LERTCONs are broken down into 5 Defense Conditions (DEFCONs) and 2 Emergency Conditions (EMERGCONs).

Defense readiness conditions (DEFCONs) describe progressive alert postures primarily for use between the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the commanders of unified commands. DEFCONs are graduated to match situations of varying military severity, and are numbered 5,4,3,2, and 1 as appropriate. DEFCONs are phased increases in combat readiness. In general terms, these are descriptions of DEFCONs:
DEFCON 5 Normal peacetime readiness
DEFCON 4 Normal, increased intelligence and strengthened security measures
DEFCON 3 Increase in force readiness above normal readiness
DEFCON 2 Further Increase in force readiness, but less than maximum readiness
DEFCON 1 Maximum force readiness.

EMERGCONs are national level reactions in response to ICBM (missiles in the air) attack. By definition, other forces go to DEFCON 1 during an EMERGCON.
DEFENSE EMERGENCY: Major attack upon U.S. forces overseas, or allied forces in any area, and is confirmed either by the commander of a unified or specified command or higher authority or an overt attack of any type is made upon the United States and is confirmed by the commander of a unified or specified command or higher authority.
AIR DEFENSE EMERGENCY: Air defense emergency is an emergency condition, declared by the Commander in Chief, North American Aerospace Defense Command. It indicates that attack upon the continental United States, Canada, or US installations in Greenland by hostile aircraft or missiles is considered probable, is imminent, or is taking place.
During the Cuban Missile Crisis, the US Strategic Air Command was placed on DEFCON 2 for the first time in history, while the rest of US military commands (with the exception of the US Air Forces in Europe) went on DEFCON 3. On 22 October 1962 SAC responded by establishing Defense Condition Three (DEFCON III), and ordered B-52s on airborne alert. Tension grew and the next day SAC declared DEFCON II, a heightened state of alert, ready to strike targets within the Soviet Union.


On 15 November 1965 the day Strategic Air Command (SAC) postured down to defense condition (DEFCON) III.

On 6 October 1973 Egyptian and Syrian forces launched a surprise attack on Israel. On 25 October U.S. forces went on Defense Condition (DEFCON) III alert status, as possible intervention by the Soviet Union was feared. On 26 October, CINCSAC and CINCONAD reverted to normal DEFCON status. On 31 October USEUCOM (less the Sixth Fleet) went off DEFCON III status. The Sixth Fleet resumed its normal DEFCON status on 17 November 1973.


Having said that , I'm sure Mr.Bush knows of his option to make up some entirely new ' Defence Options ' .


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TJT, from my discussions with a couple editors, it's pretty clear that rule #1 of MARP is nothing but words.

Novice is permitted to blatantly show disrespect toward me, you and a handful of others over and over and over again cuz NOTHING has been or likely will be done about it. He does this to anyone that doesn't 100% agree with what he states.

Most here are very aware of this. However, I think they appreciate the knowledge of games and tricks he brings to MARP. I think people give him way too much credit though. Most are certainly tricks he learned elsewhere and is just presenting that to MARP.

Given how many times in the past year alone he has submitted inps with questionable gameplay in them makes me wonder just how many other inps that were confirmed and accepted are "legit". Someone that blatantly shows no respect toward other members and no respect toward the integrity of gaming by playing the game however the code of the game or MAME allows it has me suspecting his inps and scores here at MARP. A real gamer would have had common sense to realize playing Camel Try in the manner he played it wouldn't be acceptable and play the game under the rules stated for the game....even if the code has some odd bug that would allow you to cheat(meaning breaking the rules of the game).

It's not complaining to point that out either. BTW, I still haven't played the game competitively once since Novice uploaded that inp for Camel Try showing the warping BS...even though a couple days later he deleted it. It spoiled the game for me. It was a lot of fun to play prior to that.

TJT, that's why I haven't tried to beat any of your or QRS's scores on it in recent months. I wanted no part of cameltry anymore after that. It's a shame cuz I think we could have had a nice competition between QRS, you and me where the scores for the game likely get close to the max possible. BTW I think 800k at special is unlikely despite your claim...hehe I'm not saying it's not possible...but just really tough. It would require all kinds of block breaking combos as well as lots of efficient and skillful bumper use.
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LN2 wrote:TJT, from my discussions with a couple editors, it's pretty clear that rule #1 of MARP is nothing but words.

Novice is permitted to blatantly show disrespect toward me, you and a handful of others over and over and over again cuz NOTHING has been or likely will be done about it. He does this to anyone that doesn't 100% agree with what he states.

Most here are very aware of this. However, I think they appreciate the knowledge of games and tricks he brings to MARP. I think people give him way too much credit though. Most are certainly tricks he learned elsewhere and is just presenting that to MARP.
I agree. There should be something done about it by authorities of this message board.

For God's sake, can't you even ban him for a month or two, like a warning... If /when he does not learn from it, ban longer time.

That kind of text WOULD NOT be allowed at many other message boards. Most here are quite friendly people with a common hobby, you can not really see many ill comments directed to other people here. Hisa/Novice is being the main contributor to that kind of disrespectful language and bad blood here.

Furthermore I would state that saying somebody is mac cheater, ignorant asshole etc is MUCH more worse than using a F-word in the board.
F-word can be used sometimes as ummm...to make language more colourful and put some weight for words. I agree though that reading and using F-word here all the time would be quite boring.
That was considered as a some sort of a crime at old marp board.
Haha, I even got censored at this current board once for using word "fuck". Yes, and that was in a "debate" with Hisa...again.

I'm amazed only few people here react to hes arrogant comments. Maybe they are avoiding controversy. Maybe some even fear very expected comment like "you are ignorant loser and have no skill or knowledge at games" -tell me honestly who does that sound like?

....But I think Novice only has controversy with good players, like Me, Rick, BBH etc.

To me hes recordings, or playing skills really don't seem so precius. As said before hes inps are mostly copies of someone other players tactics. There are some nice inp sites to see better inps by Japanese players. They mostly can not be submitted to Marp though, because of using autofire, serious leeching, bugs like Cameltry etc. -Anything allowed, no rules there.

I can not understand the current policy at Marp, giving much too much slack for bad behaviour like Hisa's and some very loose policy with Preload. Whatever happened to editor's meetings. Maybe now members of editorial staff are too passive here, or nobody really knows who's should do disciplinary measures...

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There's a hell of a lot worse out there than Hisa, trust me. If you can't handle his antics, ignore him.

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Saying that there are a lot worse at some other boards doesn't really make it right. Why should someone have to tolerate it.
Difference is also that this has been going on for so long.
He has been putting Rick(LN2) down for months? now...I really see that unacceptable behaviour. Try to put yourself in Ricks position. It really is hard sometimes try to act adult manner when you are constantly put down called names etc in a stupid, annoying and childish way.
I understand that Rick has even asked for editors to do something about it!!!!!!! Rick really has been behaving very maturely with "criticism" hes been getting. Not really putting gasoline into flames...

Think how polite everyone is at TG-board, yes there are different opininions sure, but nobody is saying anybody f*ck off there. I think Marp is and has been mostly same, why not keep it like that. Line has to be drawn somewhere. This has been going on for too long now.
He has been told before to stop fighting here. 8O
Yes, we allmost did.

Yes, I find Hisa's posts very laughable sometimes, there surely is some comedic relief for many of us -For those he don't torture month after month. I can understand different opinions and controversy based on that, but discussion should be about things disagreed, not getting personal.
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I say leave him alone . His posts can be both enlightening , and abusive . But the abusive ones are directed at certain players , not all MARP-ers .

Example.....look at the way Matt responds . Equally insulting , and rather funny . This is where I first heard/seen the word ' fucktard ' . Great stuff , and interesting reading . By the way , are we not ( well mostly ) adults here ? If ye can't take it , well don't give it . And vice-versa .

Granted , we don't need constant slagging . But it happens . Hisa-Chan has his attitude , and his opponents have theirs . Human nature . But although it may be a pain to some , I enjoy the verbal exchanges . It's not that heavy compared to other boards , and Hisa-Chan is at a disadvantage due to the language barrier . Yes he is a great player , and I don't agree with everything he says , but to ban him is a bit extreme .

Remember , his 'rants' are directed at a few players...not all . Hisa-Chan , when asked , has been very helpful with games info .

Oh well , thats my 2 cent . Flames are welcome.....

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The TJT wrote:I can not understand the current policy at Marp, giving much too much slack for bad behaviour like Hisa's and some very loose policy with Preload. Whatever happened to editor's meetings. Maybe now members of editorial staff are too passive here, or nobody really knows who's should do disciplinary measures...
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THE BASIS WHICH LIARS OFFERS TEND TO BE INFERIOR THAN THE LEVEL THEY INSIST.
AND THEY TEND TO MAKE MILLIONS OF EXCUSE INSTEAD OF ENOUGH BASIS.

If it is so easy,then he had better upload replay which beat 2.27M.
this act is enough to shut up me.
WHY DID HE WROTE BILLIONS OF WORTHLESS EXCUSE ??
simply he can not so he did not. not more than.

I hate a rude liar like him.
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