Rod Land record on story 2 by Novice

Kold666 · Post by **Kold666** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 8:49 am

On Gamest, Rod Land record for Story 2 is 1.177.900. The record posted some days ago is around 21M.
How can there be such a gap with the Gamest result which should be a world record?
Anyone knows?

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 11:34 am

Just to give a response on two foots,it could be that(in no particular order):
-the Gamest record is wrong(like for KikiKaiKai).
-the Gamest record counts only one loop,if the game is loopable.
-Hisa used some leeching technique which is "banned" for Gamest.

LN2 · Post by **LN2** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 1:32 pm

Kale wrote:-Hisa used some leeching technique which is "banned" for Gamest.

Well, if it's banned for Gamest then it should be banned here also. We all know Gamest is far more lenient about what it does or doesn't allow than we are here at MARP. In other words any technique they do ban is such an obvious abuse of playing the game that we definitely would ban it here at MARP also.

I don't know if that is the case here or not.

I would have to watch the inp myself but it was mentioned at #marp he used some trick that makes each hit on the final boss worth 1 million points each.

Mr. Kelly R. Flewin · Sun Aug 31, 2003 11:04 pm

I would have to watch the inp myself but it was mentioned at #marp he used some trick that makes each hit on the final boss worth 1 million points each.

I say allow Hisa to let us in on the trick and his input on whether it's something that was bannable or actual gameplay secret... I haven't seen it yet and even when I do, I'd like to get his input before judging... he DOES deserve that

Kelly

LN2 · Post by **LN2** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 1:04 am

I believe the tact saying I would need to watch the inp myself says the same thing you do.

I'm not judging his performance at all.

I was merely informing what was mentioned by OTHERS at #marp that had watched the inp.

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 7:25 am

Well,Hisa replied to this(then deleted) saying that the record on the sheet is simply outdated...

Kold666 · Post by **Kold666** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:46 am

His (deleted) reply doesn't mean anything...
He had used obliviously a trick to raise 1 milion for every hit to the balls....

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 3:02 pm

ah,now things are clearer:

Again Hisa has said that Gamest record is 99 millions 'cause the player who used the trick used it all the time,Hisa just leeched for some time which is fair IMO.

BTW and AFAIK my best Combat School recording is 402,320 in the bootleg version which is the same difficulty of the original.Gamest matches the same difficulty of the one used on the rec,and the reason of the recording too short in Boot Camp it's mainly due of the trackball controls emulation in MAME that gets stuck in some places...

Kold666 · Post by **Kold666** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 3:53 pm

Is it a trick or a bug of the game?

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 7:11 am

A trick without any doubts,even though I can't see if there's an actual difference.

(E comunque:che Gemant faccia l'ipocrita non mi era nuova,per questo ha bisticciato con me.

Io non sono uno stinco di santo,ma che lui faccia lo stronzo con idee medievali sul suo forum manco fosse il Klu-Klux-Klan e che mi viene a dire che non posso citare il nome di emuita solo perche' LUI non e' sufficientemente intelligente da moderare i termini su persone che non conosce,da fare teorie azzardate su improbabili crew di persone dietro a un singolo nick o dal fare altri tipi di teorie quantomeno ironiche sulle personalita' delle persone basandosi su quattro righe scritte in croce su di un forum (inglese peraltro),beh...

Se non si fosse capito,io mi sono ritirato dal fare records,in parte perche' non trovo il tempo,in parte perche' non ho piu' molti degli stimoli che mi spingevano in passato a farli,in parte perche' lo stato ha autonomamente deciso di togliermi dieci mesi di vita senza nemmeno consultarmi.Fatto sta che avrei rifiutato comunque l'offerta,non tanto per le persone coinvolte quanto per i motivi citati sopra.

Io posso anche fare pace con Gemant se me lo chiede,ma visto che e' un tantinello troppo orgoglioso non me lo chiedera' mai...

)

Kold666 · Post by **Kold666** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 1:39 pm

Kale, dovevi mandare la cartolina per rimandare il militare...

Non conosco il motivo preciso per cui tu e Gemant avete litigato, ma deduco che leggi cmq il forum shoot em up e arcade records di emuita...

By the way, I am very curious to know how Novice used that trick..

Novice · Post by **Novice** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 1:50 am

DEFCON=4

Macmame-Cheater wrote: Well, if it's banned for Gamest then it should be banned here also.

This propose is very terrible one.
Gamest ban all scores without finish the game.(if game has limited-stage)

I think 95%+ recordings turn to DQ of all MARP recordings.

Weehawk · Post by **Weehawk** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 2:43 am

Novice wrote:DEFCON=4
Macmame-Cheater wrote: Well, if it's banned for Gamest then it should be banned here also.
This propose is very terrible one.
Gamest ban all scores without finish the game.(if game has limited-stage)

I think 95%+ recordings turn to DQ of all MARP recordings.

Well, in case it ever comes to a vote, how did you get it to give you a million points for every hit?

Novice · Post by **Novice** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 9:11 am

DEFCON=4

Weehawk wrote:
Novice wrote:DEFCON=4
Macmame-Cheater wrote: Well, if it's banned for Gamest then it should be banned here also.
This propose is very terrible one.
Gamest ban all scores without finish the game.(if game has limited-stage)

I think 95%+ recordings turn to DQ of all MARP recordings.
Well, in case it ever comes to a vote, how did you get it to give you a million points for every hit?

I certain no editor makes such a stupid poll.
editors are enough wise.

ban all 902,000+ points recording??
please stop joking.

Kale · Post by **Kale** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 9:31 am

Novice wrote:DEFCON=4
Weehawk wrote:
Novice wrote:DEFCON=4 This propose is very terrible one.
Gamest ban all scores without finish the game.(if game has limited-stage)

I think 95%+ recordings turn to DQ of all MARP recordings.
Well, in case it ever comes to a vote, how did you get it to give you a million points for every hit?
I certain no editor makes such a stupid poll.
editors are enough wise.

ban all 902,000+ points recording??
please stop joking.

Notice that I was just doing a supposition,I surely don't know what is and what isn't banned by Gamest.

btw the Gamest rule about unfinished games isn't so bad!