new gamest/arcadia record list are ready....
but there are a important questions..... maybe Hisa-Chan can reply at these questions:
exemple, final fight score, with Haggar there are 2 records....
I think that the first record is: (5,497,000) with 2 cooperative players [ 4649 FUKUDA and KOREMATSU])
and second record is with single player....
is true?
or the first score is with autofire and the 2 player team not is true...
and also...
this record list not are completed... miss some important games... why?
robo army
ryuuko no ken 3
ghost pilots
area 88
D & D shadow over mystara
west story
chiki chiki boys
vs super mario brothers
raguy
aso 2 last guardian
liquids kids
magician lord
samurai spirits 1-3
real bout garou densetsu
king of fighters 94
the lord of king
joy joy kid
daimakaimura (2 loops only)
and others....
new gamest record list
Moderators: mahlemiut, seymour, QRS
this list is old (some mounths ago released) and some record are better now...
exemple, Ikaruga Normal is 35,7 M+ now
dodonpachi dai ou jou is 1,890,000,000 by Laos Osada Sennin
exemple, Ikaruga Normal is 35,7 M+ now
dodonpachi dai ou jou is 1,890,000,000 by Laos Osada Sennin
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Re: new gamest record list
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Mr.Korematsu is one of the member of 4649 fukuda(rengou.rengou=TEAM)
Gamest permit most of tricks.
If endless leeching was found, simply the game's score will be ignored.
(not for the competition).
for example...
Area 88's last boss never suicide. so avoid laser for 15 hours and shot generated cannon, you can get 10million.
(It is much easier than avoid all bullet of do-donpachi 2-5 and 2-6 stage)
all other game has such points.
sorry for poor english. Is it enough to understand??
Do you have a video of hagger play??GHEMANT wrote:new gamest/arcadia record list are ready....
but there are a important questions..... maybe Hisa-Chan can reply at these questions:
exemple, final fight score, with Haggar there are 2 records....
I think that the first record is: (5,497,000) with 2 cooperative players [ 4649 FUKUDA and KOREMATSU])
and second record is with single player....
is true?
or the first score is with autofire and the 2 player team not is true...
and also...
this record list not are completed... miss some important games... why?
robo army
ryuuko no ken 3
ghost pilots
area 88
D & D shadow over mystara
west story
chiki chiki boys
vs super mario brothers
raguy
aso 2 last guardian
liquids kids
magician lord
samurai spirits 1-3
real bout garou densetsu
king of fighters 94
the lord of king
joy joy kid
daimakaimura (2 loops only)
and others....
Mr.Korematsu is one of the member of 4649 fukuda(rengou.rengou=TEAM)
Gamest permit most of tricks.
If endless leeching was found, simply the game's score will be ignored.
(not for the competition).
for example...
Area 88's last boss never suicide. so avoid laser for 15 hours and shot generated cannon, you can get 10million.
(It is much easier than avoid all bullet of do-donpachi 2-5 and 2-6 stage)
all other game has such points.
sorry for poor english. Is it enough to understand??
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Is the high score list available for download or on the web? Is it in a specific issue of arcadia?
Hisa you frequently talk about gaming videos. Is there any place where people can buy these videos? I would be particularly interested in buying videos of donpachi, dodonpachi, and the other two games in the series.
Thanks.
Hisa you frequently talk about gaming videos. Is there any place where people can buy these videos? I would be particularly interested in buying videos of donpachi, dodonpachi, and the other two games in the series.
Thanks.
I have some replay movies, some Japanese friends have given to me.. (final fight video with Haggar for exemple)
but....
these videos are very rare and I don't share with anyone
is only for my "eyes"
I have promised they that I will not distribute never this video...
this is the important rule. I'm sorry
VHS replay videos not is for sale
FOR GAMEST RECORD LIST I undestand.... but for final fight record for exemple...
there are 2 records
Korematsu used autofire for realize final fight second record?
hisa-chan, you know a hi-score (about) for the games list that I have cited?
I'm very interested, I would want to know the record of Magician Lord or Raguy...
but....
these videos are very rare and I don't share with anyone
is only for my "eyes"
I have promised they that I will not distribute never this video...
this is the important rule. I'm sorry
VHS replay videos not is for sale
FOR GAMEST RECORD LIST I undestand.... but for final fight record for exemple...
there are 2 records
Korematsu used autofire for realize final fight second record?
hisa-chan, you know a hi-score (about) for the games list that I have cited?
I'm very interested, I would want to know the record of Magician Lord or Raguy...
Last edited by GHEMANT on Tue May 20, 2003 9:11 am, edited 2 times in total.
another exemple... daimakaimura have infinite loops.. but is possible finish the game in 2 loops only... no infinite leeching....
why the games's list not reported a hi-score for 2 loops only?
and in samurai spirits 1-3 )neo geo fighting games) I'm sure that not exist a infinite leeching... but the hi-score not exist in list
why the games's list not reported a hi-score for 2 loops only?
and in samurai spirits 1-3 )neo geo fighting games) I'm sure that not exist a infinite leeching... but the hi-score not exist in list
I think that "D-K" has made an excellent job....
this gamest/arcadia record list is great, and important, very important document for any experts recordman
but, I think that important insert a NOTES, in some games, for understand the settings for some specifics games...
exemple, ninja commando score not is easy to undestand...
12.000.000 pts + are impossible with default setting (IMHO)
I think that the time settings has been changed.... 3'00 ----> 30'00 because in the game exist a leeching point, but not infinite leeching
this techniques is connected with remaining time
this gamest/arcadia record list is great, and important, very important document for any experts recordman
but, I think that important insert a NOTES, in some games, for understand the settings for some specifics games...
exemple, ninja commando score not is easy to undestand...
12.000.000 pts + are impossible with default setting (IMHO)
I think that the time settings has been changed.... 3'00 ----> 30'00 because in the game exist a leeching point, but not infinite leeching
this techniques is connected with remaining time
It sounds like to me Gamest, MARP and even other scoreboards need to stop trying to track records for every single game that exists out there.
Some games have design flaws etc. where a high score has little to no meaning. In those cases there should just be no records for that particular game.
Sure, you can perhaps have a special area for those with examples of the gameplay but don't recognize them as records.
MARP has many examples that fall into this also. They even have games with special rules to not leech etc. yet all of the final scores versus completing the game are all based on some level of leeching. Who has 900k versus 850k really doesn't make much of a difference there if that other 50k was obtained just cuz the 900k player died a few times to loop a scene where they can leech out more points from that level.....whether the death was intentional or not.
The player in many games that plays it more flawlessly never losing 1 man will often end up with a lower score than someone who dies a lot throughout. High scores for those games mean little IMHO also.
Some games have design flaws etc. where a high score has little to no meaning. In those cases there should just be no records for that particular game.
Sure, you can perhaps have a special area for those with examples of the gameplay but don't recognize them as records.
MARP has many examples that fall into this also. They even have games with special rules to not leech etc. yet all of the final scores versus completing the game are all based on some level of leeching. Who has 900k versus 850k really doesn't make much of a difference there if that other 50k was obtained just cuz the 900k player died a few times to loop a scene where they can leech out more points from that level.....whether the death was intentional or not.
The player in many games that plays it more flawlessly never losing 1 man will often end up with a lower score than someone who dies a lot throughout. High scores for those games mean little IMHO also.
in next release add SAMURAI SPIRITS 3 and real bout 2 from neo geo freak hi-score.....
and other neo geo games from neo geo freak...
in shock troopers 1 add the note.. mame replay by BBH (world record)
I search the games missing (samurai 1, ghost pilots.....) or search informations if these games have infinite leeching techniques...
for me are very important:
robo army
ghost pilots
D & D shadow over mystara
chiki chiki boys
vs super mario brothers
raguy
aso 2 last guardian
liquids kids
magician lord
samurai spirits 1
real bout garou densetsu
king of fighters 94
joy joy kid
daimakaimura (2 loops only)
if anyone know these...
and other neo geo games from neo geo freak...
in shock troopers 1 add the note.. mame replay by BBH (world record)
I search the games missing (samurai 1, ghost pilots.....) or search informations if these games have infinite leeching techniques...
for me are very important:
robo army
ghost pilots
D & D shadow over mystara
chiki chiki boys
vs super mario brothers
raguy
aso 2 last guardian
liquids kids
magician lord
samurai spirits 1
real bout garou densetsu
king of fighters 94
joy joy kid
daimakaimura (2 loops only)
if anyone know these...
Thank you for the updated list, Gemant!
I don't know about the rest, sorry... :(
Ok, regarding Dance Dance Revolution scores. I don't know if these corrections are of any interest to you, but there's a few things I wanted to point out (most of this taken from the internet ranking)
Dance Dance Revolution (1st Mix) - I think the first category should be "MANIAC", not "HARD". Also, the first song played in the notes is "Little Bitch", not "Little Beach" ;)
Dance Dance Revolution 3rd Mix - There are a total of 18 high score lists!!! 2 regular modes (DDR 3rd / SSR), 3 Nonstop courses that get scored (Favorite Song / Konami Original / Special), and 3 ways to play (Single/Versus / Double / Unison. Check this page for all the scores if you want to include the highest score for each of the 18 courses (I know, it's a lot):
http://www.konami.co.jp/am/ddr/ddr3rd/D ... nking.html
Dance Dance Revolution 5th Mix - for Single (Type C, 3 songs), highest score on the Internet Ranking was 176397856. Highest score on Double (Type C, 3 songs) is 176298210. I don't know if you want to include Type A and Type B rankings, but here they are anyway (for default 3 songs)
Type A, Single - 105006100 (two players have gotten this, max score?)
Type A, Double - 104723895 (two players have gotten this, max score?)
Type B, Single - 145696598
Type B, Double - 146411361
DDRMAX (6th Mix) - the two categories should be "Normal" and "EX", not "Standard" and "Heavy".
Single Normal - 243201373
Double Normal - 224854700
Single EX - 401162868
Double EX - 378467861
DDRMAX2 (7th Mix) - I don't know what the two scores on your list are for. There are a *LOT* of courses on the Internet Ranking page, there are 18 Oni courses (on Single and Double), and 11 other regular song sets that when played gave a code. I'm not sure if you want to track everything, but again, heere is the page with all the rankings (select courses by the pulldown bar at the top). On an arcade machine though, the only scores that the machine saves are the following Oni courses: Naoki Standard Single, Nearly=130 Single, Paraonia Brothers Single, Naoki Standard Double, Nearly=130 Double, and Paranoia Brothers Double.
http://www.konami.co.jp/am/ddr/ddrmax2/max2_ir/rankdb/
Maybe these aren't on the list because nobody can finish them and they're just bitter about it. :) kidding, of course.GHEMANT wrote: robo army
ghost pilots
Aren't there two different ways to get an infinite amount of points? I would guess this is why it's not included... although you'd think it'd be on the maxed-out list at least?vs super mario brothers
I don't know about the rest, sorry... :(
Ok, regarding Dance Dance Revolution scores. I don't know if these corrections are of any interest to you, but there's a few things I wanted to point out (most of this taken from the internet ranking)
Dance Dance Revolution (1st Mix) - I think the first category should be "MANIAC", not "HARD". Also, the first song played in the notes is "Little Bitch", not "Little Beach" ;)
Dance Dance Revolution 3rd Mix - There are a total of 18 high score lists!!! 2 regular modes (DDR 3rd / SSR), 3 Nonstop courses that get scored (Favorite Song / Konami Original / Special), and 3 ways to play (Single/Versus / Double / Unison. Check this page for all the scores if you want to include the highest score for each of the 18 courses (I know, it's a lot):
http://www.konami.co.jp/am/ddr/ddr3rd/D ... nking.html
Dance Dance Revolution 5th Mix - for Single (Type C, 3 songs), highest score on the Internet Ranking was 176397856. Highest score on Double (Type C, 3 songs) is 176298210. I don't know if you want to include Type A and Type B rankings, but here they are anyway (for default 3 songs)
Type A, Single - 105006100 (two players have gotten this, max score?)
Type A, Double - 104723895 (two players have gotten this, max score?)
Type B, Single - 145696598
Type B, Double - 146411361
DDRMAX (6th Mix) - the two categories should be "Normal" and "EX", not "Standard" and "Heavy".
Single Normal - 243201373
Double Normal - 224854700
Single EX - 401162868
Double EX - 378467861
DDRMAX2 (7th Mix) - I don't know what the two scores on your list are for. There are a *LOT* of courses on the Internet Ranking page, there are 18 Oni courses (on Single and Double), and 11 other regular song sets that when played gave a code. I'm not sure if you want to track everything, but again, heere is the page with all the rankings (select courses by the pulldown bar at the top). On an arcade machine though, the only scores that the machine saves are the following Oni courses: Naoki Standard Single, Nearly=130 Single, Paraonia Brothers Single, Naoki Standard Double, Nearly=130 Double, and Paranoia Brothers Double.
http://www.konami.co.jp/am/ddr/ddrmax2/max2_ir/rankdb/
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your new database has some mistranslate and too old (I think 4 month older than mine.)
If you want, I can correct it.
Those scores are on factory default and FINISH ALL STAGES.(Finish the game with 1.4million point is superior than 9,999,990 points without finish at Gamest/arcadia record race.)
If you hate this type of race, then ignore.(very simple and easy.)
All those games have either "HAVE ENDLESS LEECHING POINT" or "NOT INPORT".GHEMANT wrote: robo army
ghost pilots
D & D shadow over mystara
chiki chiki boys
vs super mario brothers
raguy
aso 2 last guardian
liquids kids
magician lord
samurai spirits 1
real bout garou densetsu
king of fighters 94
joy joy kid
daimakaimura (2 loops only)
your new database has some mistranslate and too old (I think 4 month older than mine.)
If you want, I can correct it.
Those scores are on factory default and FINISH ALL STAGES.(Finish the game with 1.4million point is superior than 9,999,990 points without finish at Gamest/arcadia record race.)
If you hate this type of race, then ignore.(very simple and easy.)
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