Camel try Expert Leeching

[LN2]

Don't make too much of an effort to play those in anything but macmame on a mac.

I was hoping a couple might work since a couple of the first batch actually worked through the first few worlds of a course....figured maybe get lucky where whatever triggers the "tilt" in playing those back wouldn't happen for at least a couple of them...guess not.

I thought you were going to wait....you have beaten all my scores already.

I didn't really want to play more cameltry tonight.

That 731,080 score is unreal...and I thought my 707k score was something special...nope. Your higher scores for exp suggest maybe you are bumper leeching at least a little bit now? hehe

I can't see getting 500k without doing some bumper leeching.

Without having to watch them...are you using the steel ball for all of those or something else? hehe

I was going to try some runs with each type of "ball" to see if maybe one of the other balls is actually both fairly good at block crushing plus has better control for completing in faster times.

Are you beating my completion times to get more points or just from more block crushing?

You aren't putting your completion times in your description so I can't tell qithout playing them back in VPC.

I might play that a little bit tonight but had planned on a couple other games.

[QRS]

Don't make too much of an effort to play those in anything but macmame on a mac.

Well as long as you upload great scores I will try to see if I can play them back!

I was hoping a couple might work since a couple of the first batch actually worked through the first few worlds of a course....figured maybe get lucky where whatever triggers the "tilt" in playing those back wouldn't happen for at least a couple of them...guess not.

Yeah that´s sad.. I´m still waiting for other peoples input about those scores.. At least I wanna hear how you play! I will continue to try them though maybe I will succed sooner or later.

I thought you were going to wait....you have beaten all my scores already.

Yeah i was going to wait actually.. but things in real life cooled down today and I could not do the things I should have done, so I ended up playing cameltry instead. And once I started I could not stop Still playing a little btw

I didn't really want to play more cameltry tonight.

Please don´t play tonight! Let me have all firstplaces for one day ok? j/k

That 731,080 score is unreal...and I thought my 707k score was something special...nope.
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Yeah I was surprised too... I guess I had one of those lucky runs.. When I watched it again I din´t think I played so good.. but I got a lot of bricks smashed.. and avoided more -time thingies than before.. and a fast run. I was also rather lucky on the "?" boxes.

Your higher scores for exp suggest maybe you are bumper leeching at least a little bit now? hehe
I can't see getting 500k without doing some bumper leeching.

Yeah I had to do that.. but I suck at it! It is hard to get a good rytm (for me) with the ironball. I did not leech for so long though. I tried to do a good game beside the leeching, and that was what took me most of the time. I keep messing up the bricks at stage 2 all the time.. I decided not to leave that place without at least getting one row of bricks without stoping, and trying to finish the stage with 35-40 sec left.
After the bumper leeching I tried to leave when I had about 50 sec left, so I stayed there for about 10-20 sec something.
I think the expert courses are the hardest ones, even with the leeching.. I don´t think I will play those for a while

Without having to watch them...are you using the steel ball for all of those or something else? hehe

Nope, I used the Iron ball on everyone of them. Except the Training stage of course.

I was going to try some runs with each type of "ball" to see if maybe one of the other balls is actually both fairly good at block crushing plus has better control for completing in faster times.

I have tried them all ( about 1 year ago) and I can´t find any difference (except the Iron ball)
Hisa told me once that the Iron ball is the only one that has different checksum too.
Feel free to test it though! Maybe you find out something.

Are you beating my completion times to get more points or just from more block crushing?
You aren't putting your completion times in your description so I can't tell qithout playing them back in VPC.

Hmm I have no idea actually. I can´t watch your recordings and see how many blocks you are crushing, and I have not been thinking so much about my times actually. I will look at them again and maybe post the times on the description later on.
I tend to go for the blocks when there are a couple of them an try to get a combo.. I do that a lot, but I try to be quick about it. The time is so damn important too!

I might play that a little bit tonight but had planned on a couple other games

Yeah go ahead! It is always great with competition. It makes the scores better.

Regards

QRS

[LN2]

QRS, thx for adding your completed course times. I see they are very similar to mine.

Man, that 731k game you must have been busting some serious blocks cuz the completed time is about the same as 680-690k runs.

[LN2]

well, at least you did the 736k run on the same version.
I'm not sure why you are still playing that version with that good of a score.

[QRS]

Same version? I did the 731k on the jap version, and the 736k on the Us version. Nice exp, beg scores btw. That will keep me buzy for a while

Cheers

[LN2]

yeah, I noticed that later....was mistaken at first.

I feel ripped off by that one beginner run though of 362k. I completed it in 2'41. that 17 seconds faster than any other run I have ever done on it.

To get under 3 minutes is pretty sweet...but to break it by 19 seconds was unreal. Looking at your posted times it seems you haven't broken the 3 minute barrier yet.

I feel ripped off cuz I figured my score should be higher because of it.
I did excellent block breaking also where I can't see doing much better. I have no idea how you got that 370k run taking 20+ seconds longer.

I'll maybe have to watch that one in VirtualPC.

[LN2]

It doesn't seem like you are having problems with the bumper leeching now. 555k is quite efficient bumper leeching.

Also, as you saw I was not even attempting to beat some of your scores...figured we could just share having the top scores.

But I see you want them all...so I guess all bets are off.

[QRS]

No it is not true. I still suck on the bumper leeching! Most of my points on that game came from fast brick breaking. Of course I leeched on the bumpers, but not much more than on my 500k and 516k recording. I also broke most of the bricks on the end of the last stage.. I have not tried that before really

Well, in the end we will have to share the scores, cause it will be harder and harder to beat eachother! Frankly I don´t really care if I´m first or second or third in the end. I just like to do my best and compete!! Beat your scores so you can strike back. That´s what I really like. My main goal is for us to push the scores so high they are almost impossible to beat again.

In the end we will have to share them one way or another

I think i will leave the expert stages for a while though. Even if you take them back. I´m really tired of them now. For me it has always been the hardest stage.. and with that bumper.. geez. I think I would vote agains tthe bumper leeching If I could redo my voting.. I really hate it!

Anyway, time to play some juno first.. and get really irritated

QRS

[LN2]

Well, in the end we will have to share the scores, cause it will be harder and harder to beat eachother! Frankly I don´t really care if I´m first or second or third in the end.

I think we have first and second locked up.

I agree....I was just egging you.
This competition has obviously made us both truly excel at this game now where I'd bet we are the top 2 players for it. hehe

BTW, check out my new Beginner course scores. The bar is getting quite high there. The one score might just about be the ceiling for what's possible realistically.

I only had to do 3-5 runs of each version to get those scores though so maybe there is still room above it.

[QRS]

I just woke up in the middle of the night and I could not sleep.. and look what I found! Damn, you did it again! Great scores Rick! I agree with you. This might be the roof for the beginner course!

You must have had a perfect brick breaking during that 389 (395) round!
I will try to see if I can play them back again. You never know.

Keep the good scores coming, cause I will be back..sooner or later !

The expert course though.. I will leave them as they are (At least for some time). I´m too tired of them. I just hope that there was more stages, cause I´m starting to get tired of them (especially the expert ones) hehe

Cheers


QRS

[Novice]

Defcon=7

Question.

1 The result of this poll will never change even if 100 people will against.
Is it right/not??

2 I CAN do bambper score improvement if I FINISH the game.
Is it right/not??

3 I CAN use slot-machine. because of slot is the rule(not trick)
Is it right/not??

4 I can change speed of analog controler if it felt too slow.
Is it right/not??

5 This game may have some small(very very small) bug.
sometimes ball may warp to somewhere of screen.
If it happened, re-play is legal.
Is it right/not??

6 After someone uploads over million(2million) points re-play, 3 current top players must attack to him.
but such complaing should be accepted by whom can play it by onesself.

Their complaing will be reject automatically if one of them can do it by onesself.
Can I make the rule of this point?/not


Please answer. next one will be a little dubious.

[LN2]

Defcon=7

Question.

2 I CAN do bambper score improvement if I FINISH the game.
Is it right/not??

Yes..the rule is you may leech off the bumpers as long as you complete the entire course. I think you reach a point where even if you just stayed at those bumpers until the game was over you might not be able to reach the score of someone who did complete the course in a timely manner. There are a few worlds left in that course after that bumper leeching world so the time bonus points are still quite substantial. Unless your bumper play is almost flawless I think you end up with a lesser score after some point versus those that just leech for a brief period of time then complete the course. At least that is what I have seen in varying how long I stay there. My best scores are when I am there for a little bit but where I can still manage to get the starting time for the last couple worlds at 99.9 so in completing those last couple worlds I get a big time bonus.

3 I CAN use slot-machine. because of slot is the rule(not trick)
Is it right/not??

Nothing is said about this so I'm assuming you can...It would require a separate poll/vote and rule to disallow that...plus you could even really go for it by letting time run out where you get that lottery which if you match will give you 20 seconds of time....if you then complete the course I think that's acceptable under the rules...but score likely wouldn't benefit from that. There is a big compromise of bumper leeching vs time bonus points lost. Some is fine...but spend too much time at those bumpers and you might end up losing points overall versus gaining points.

None of the current top scores use the slot machine or lottery to add on time though.

4 I can change speed of analog controler if it felt too slow.
Is it right/not??

Yes, for any game you can change the analog sensitivity settings to whatever you want. Definitely no problem doing that. The inp records the scaled analog data anyway...not the raw so the sensitivity settings someone else has set won't affect their ability to playback your inp.

5 This game may have some small(very very small) bug.
sometimes ball may warp to somewhere of screen.

Not sure what you mean here. I haven't seen anything like that. The ball has never warped on me in any of the versions of cameltry for any of the courses.

Maybe that is specific to a certain version of mame you are using(?). I wouldn't trust the game is playing correctly for you if you are seeing warping.

Their complaing will be reject automatically if one of them can do it by onesself.
Can I make the rule of this point?/not

Not sure what you are asking...it's specific to the circumstance...you can't globally apply that....although I know you do that anyway.

Plus, someone pointing out something isn't "complaining". Why do you feel if someone states doing this or that is unfair to others is actually complaining? All that Outrun stuff was just my opinion of how the game was intended to be played and how most have played it. I felt you playing it differently using that trick which results in much higher scores isn't exactly fair to others who race the game as it was intended. That wasn't complaining at all. It was only my opinion and continues to be my opinion. It's a big flaw that you assume others are complaining. It's often just people expressing their thoughts and opinions about an issue and not judging others for their views. Nothing complaining about that at all.

Maybe you will figure out what we mean by that someday. In short it means not calling others stupid or ignorant or saying they are complaining just for having a different opinion. It also means you stop assuming people lack knowledge of a game or issue of a game where therefore they aren't allowed to express any opinion. If someone is truly not knowledgable about a game that will show in their opinions about it.

If I have complained about anything with you it's your attitude toward others and calling them stupid and ignorant....not game rules. It was voted on...decided...I am fine with the result. It still doesn't change my opinion though. It just means not enough have that same opinion for that rule to pass.

I hope that clears things up some. We don't need the constant attacks from you on other members in these forums. I respectfully ask you to stop.

[Francois Daniel]

1 The result of this poll will never change even if 100 people will against.
Is it right/not??

I don't know. It's a good question.

2 I CAN do bambper score improvement if I FINISH the game.
Is it right/not??

Sure, on any bumper of any course of the game.

3 I CAN use slot-machine. because of slot is the rule(not trick)
Is it right/not??

Yes, but for reach top scores, I don't think it was usefull. Except if you know a leeching spot very near of the end of the game.

4 I can change speed of analog controler if it felt too slow.
Is it right/not??

Duh ! It's possible ? Maybe one day I'll take an analog controller for play Camel Try

5 This game may have some small(very very small) bug.
sometimes ball may warp to somewhere of screen.
If it happened, re-play is legal.
Is it right/not??

I don't seen any warp on this game. I presume its legal because ther's no rule who forbid it.

6 After someone uploads over million(2million) points re-play, 3 current top players must attack to him.
but such complaing should be accepted by whom can play it by onesself.
Their complaing will be reject automatically if one of them can do it by onesself.
Can I make the rule of this point?/not

I don't understood what do you mean. Do you mean you can make 2 millions on Camel Try ???

Francois

[The TJT]

1 The result of this poll will never change even if 100 people will against.
Is it right/not??

Are you playing stupid?

[The TJT]

Defcon=1777, seventh day of july

6 Their complaing will be reject automatically if one of them can do it by onesself.
Can I make the rule of this point?/not

You really try to say: if one of them can't do it himself.

....Yes, only top three players are allowed to have opinion at any game, if they can score over 2 million. -Very good idea indeed