New to mame: throw me a bone!

[Cadillac_Guy]

I've been trying to get samuri showdown 4 and metal slug x to run in both mac mame and geo mame. I get the same errors when I try to start either one "reqired files missing can't run"

Ng-sfix.rom not found
neo-geo.rom not found
ng-sm1.rom not found
ng-lo.rom not found

this is the error i get from samuri showdown 4 in geo mame.....

I have yet to see mame in action, ss4 is one of my favorite games ever and the only machine in my town is all kinds of played out and broke down..any help at all would be really great!

[zylquin]

You need additional files to play the Neogeo games.
One way to get it is sign up at http://www.mame.dk and search for the romname "neogeo". Download the file (neogeo.zip) and place it, as is, in your mame folder.

Good luck.

I've been trying to get samuri showdown 4 and metal slug x to run in both mac mame and geo mame. I get the same errors when I try to start either one "reqired files missing can't run"

Ng-sfix.rom not found
neo-geo.rom not found
ng-sm1.rom not found
ng-lo.rom not found

this is the error i get from samuri showdown 4 in geo mame.....

I have yet to see mame in action, ss4 is one of my favorite games ever and the only machine in my town is all kinds of played out and broke down..any help at all would be really great!

[LN2]

cool, another mac user joins MARP.

[Buttermaker]

New to mame

http://www.mameworld.net/easyemu
http://www.mame.net/mamefaq.html

[Cadillac_Guy]

I stayed up late last night trying to get this thing to work, all I get no matter what rom i use I keep getting missing file errors. I checked in the supported roms list that came with the emulater and the files Im missing are in the rom folder. I tryed putting just the zips in the rom folder and then the unstuffed files in there too. arg. does this ring any bells for anyone?

by the way, I put those bios roms in there zylquin sugested (thanks by the way) and it cant see them... is there a way to"refresh" the list so the emulater can see em?

[mahlemiut]

Push F5 to refresh the MAME32 gamelist. But it doesn't list BIOS ROMs.

It's easiest to just keep ROMs zipped, in which case, you should have neogeo.zip AND samsho4.zip in your ROMs folder.

[LN2]

Push F5 to refresh the MAME32 gamelist. But it doesn't list BIOS ROMs.

It's easiest to just keep ROMs zipped, in which case, you should have neogeo.zip AND samsho4.zip in your ROMs folder.

He is using macmame as pointed out above. I'm not sure how you figured he was using mame32.

Do you have a file in your rom folder named neogeo.zip?
This has the bios/drivers for running Neo Geo games. Given you are getting those missing file errors I think you are missing this file...as was pointed out above.

Just put that neogeo.zip file in your rom folder...along with your neogeo games files(in zip format as you obtained them).

If you don't have a neogeo.zip file in your rom folder then that is why the neogeo game isn't running. You need to also obtain that file. Sorry forum rules don't allow me to go beyond that. All neo-geo games require that neo-geo bios zip file to run. There are a few other bios sets also for other types of games. You can use http://www.mame.dk as a reference for that...look up the rom name you want to play...then look at the details...and scroll down and it will show you what bios files are needed and what versions of mame the game runs it etc.

...or if you need a parent rom set for the game etc. It's a handy reference site for mame roms.

[mahlemiut]

He is using macmame as pointed out above. I'm not sure how you figured he was using mame32.

Yeah, yeah, alright, my mistake.

Do you have a file in your rom folder named neogeo.zip?
This has the bios/drivers for running Neo Geo games. Given you are getting those missing file errors I think you are missing this file...as was pointed out above.

Just put that neogeo.zip file in your rom folder...along with your neogeo games files(in zip format as you obtained them).

Didn't I just say that?

If you don't have a neogeo.zip file in your rom folder then that is why the neogeo game isn't running. You need to also obtain that file. Sorry forum rules don't allow me to go beyond that. All neo-geo games require that neo-geo bios zip file to run. There are a few other bios sets also for other types of games. You can use http://www.mame.dk as a reference for that...

Whoops. You just did tell him where to find the ROMs.

[LN2]

Whoops. You just did tell him where to find the ROMs.

No, you just did.
I didn't mention that at all. I said it's a great reference though cuz it is. i hope you agree on that. I haven't found any other website that has such a clear cut and complete info reference for all the roms.

Since I'm on a mac playing macmame that's even more important cuz current ywe are still only at 0.60 so I often go to that website to check a game to see what versions of mame run it...cuz many I see here and haven't played it's cuz they have been added since 0.61 or newer so can't play those yet in macmame.

New macmame version is being worked on...think it will be 0.65...but not sure.

[mahlemiut]

No, you just did.
I didn't mention that at all. I said it's a great reference though cuz it is. i hope you agree on that. I haven't found any other website that has such a clear cut and complete info reference for all the roms.

Heh. It's not like it's really some great secret or anything.

I don't know what seymour's policy is on ROM links, but if he's wants, I can remove the offending links (or he can do it himself).

[Cadillac_Guy]

I'm Running mac os 9.2 and according to emulation.net, the most recent version, mac mame .37b14 I went around getting roms that were supposd to work for that version and samller roms, like the origional version of rampage, older stuff. I tried leaving the unziped files in the roms folder, and when it wouldnt see them I unziped em and left the origional .zip file in there. still no dice, took out the .zip file so just the game folder was in there and restarted mac mame each time i would move a file. I also moved my roms for my atari in there, it can see them, but cant run them. it says "bad zip file" over and over again while it loads then when the load bar fills up it gives a list of all the files needed to run the rom and says "rom file not found" for each one. I'm begining to think it might be my stuffit program I use for unstuffing/unziping files. v 7.01 its the free version. I've also tried a similar process in my geomame emulater. sigh.

[mahlemiut]

I would expect that MacMAME would handle zip files on its own. But I don't know how MacMAME works, so I can't really say. Perhaps upgrading to MacOS X and using XMAME might help?

[LN2]

I'm Running mac os 9.2 and according to emulation.net, the most recent version, mac mame .37b14

Some PC sites aren't up to date on macmame. There have been at least 10 versions of macmame since 0.37b14. 0.37b14 is going back 2-3 years.

The current is 0.60a(not 0.60, but 0.60a, these are 2 different releases...)
anyway, you can get macmame through http://www.macmame.org/
macmame 0.64 or 0.65 is in development so you will want to keep an eye out for that also. currently no date set for that release as the guy developing it does it in his free time between porting commercial games he makes money doing. If he is very busy porting commercial games then it can be months before he finishes the next macmame release. If he has free time to work on macmame then a matter of weeks.

I tried leaving the unziped files in the roms folder, and when it wouldnt see them I unziped em and left the origional .zip file in there.

I have to be careful here cuz of forum rules. I have always obtained zipped rom files. My guess is your web browser or whatever software you are using to get these files is perhaps auto-extracting them? In other words, was the actual downloaded file(s) zip files at the site before you downloaded it? If so then leave them that way. Don't extract them or do anything to them. this might require you changing your browser preferences for using helpers...where instead of using a helper you just tell it for .zip files to save to disk...or you just right-clicking/cntrl-clicking on the link and choosing download link to disk.

My guess is this must be what is happening cuz almost no one has or uses unzipped ROM file sets anymore.

If you tried rezipping, you have to be careful how and what utility you use to do that with so it does it in the cross-platform zip format. for example it's a preference option in DropZip. You want the macbinary preference option set to "never" in DropZip. You also need to make sure the foldername has the same name as the rom set. You will want to remove that " folder" that has maybe been put after it in the name. You don't want the zip archive to include the macbinary info...just a plain data file like on PCs.

Also, since you are new to macmame, read the files in the Documentation folder. There are many files there that tell you almost everything a user needs to know and then some.

Also from that macmame.org site there are links to various other macmame sites. There are a few. http://www.emuverse.com/ has forums for various emulators for MacOS including a macmame forum. You will get a lot more input back on your macmame questions asking in a macmame forum.
macmame 0.37b* is a very old version where a good percentage of modern rom sets for more modern versions of mame won't work with it.
Many will but many won't.

I suggest you start with just testing an easy game like pacman in macmame first to see it's working before tackling more advanced games like Neo-Geo games. Again read the readme files in the documentation folder before proceeding as it has tips for everything you have asked here.

[Francois Daniel]

I'm Running mac os 9.2 and according to emulation.net, the most recent version, mac mame .37b14 I went around getting roms that were supposd to work for that version and samller roms, like the origional version of rampage, older stuff. I tried leaving the unziped files in the roms folder, and when it wouldnt see them I unziped em and left the origional .zip file in there. still no dice, took out the .zip file so just the game folder was in there and restarted mac mame each time i would move a file. I also moved my roms for my atari in there, it can see them, but cant run them. it says "bad zip file" over and over again while it loads then when the load bar fills up it gives a list of all the files needed to run the rom and says "rom file not found" for each one. I'm begining to think it might be my stuffit program I use for unstuffing/unziping files. v 7.01 its the free version. I've also tried a similar process in my geomame emulater. sigh.

If you have an old version of mame, make caution for the neogeo.zip file. It had changed on version 0.60, if my memory is exact. You must take the older one in the reference site given by Rick Maybe it's why your mame don't find the files.

It's my 2 Euro Cents

Worthless Francois

[seymour]

No, you just did.
I didn't mention that at all. I said it's a great reference though cuz it is. i hope you agree on that. I haven't found any other website that has such a clear cut and complete info reference for all the roms.

Heh. It's not like it's really some great secret or anything.

I don't know what seymour's policy is on ROM links, but if he's wants, I can remove the offending links (or he can do it himself).

Well, normally I'd probably say no ROM links. But that wasn't quite a link. And mame.dk is hardly some secret site hidden in a corner of the internet And it does have other useful information on the games, so it's not a leech-o-rama/ad-o-rific site, like you'd expect from "normal" ROM sites.

I guess as some sort of semi-official policy on rom links, just no direct links to mame.dk downloads/roms (mentioning the romname is fine, since we all now what those are anyway, as listed in MAME), and no links to other ROM sites. Barry, feel free to moderate as needed in cases like that, since I'm not around as often. Maybe we should actually customize the TOS to be emulation/mame/marp specific?