Outrun

[LN2]

I would be opposed to a separate category for outrun allowing the trick as a separate record cuz if you do it for that game then you have to do it for 500 other games or you will have players from other games making similar cases about not being allowed to use their trick. It gets to be a big mess which in the end cheapens the entire MARP scoreboard site IMHO

It's cool to have those scores from tricks as an example here and there as a demonstration of what you can do with a game to exploit a higher score, but that's separate from records playing it as the developer had intended or to not exploit some bug in the code never fixed.

Does set 2 or set 3 have that same bug or is it specific to set 1? I noticed the 52 million score was with set 1. Perhaps a coincidence though.

[Novice]

Defcon=2

It's cool to have those scores from tricks as an example here and there as a demonstration of what you can do with a game to exploit a higher score, but that's separate from records playing it as the developer had intended or to not exploit some bug in the code never fixed.

Does set 2 or set 3 have that same bug or is it specific to set 1? I noticed the 52 million score was with set 1. Perhaps a coincidence though.

BLAH..........
still discuss among the guys who worthless to discuss?? STOP THAT.

it is not a bug but the symbol of "OUT" run.
of course all versions have this FEATURE not bug.
set 1,2,3 turbo out run and out runners. any country/continental/century version.
of course arcade version/sega mark 3/X68K version have this feature,too.

Do I have to write here once more??

ok.

Blame other skill after do it by YOURSELF.
you just misunderstood the spirit of games.


And "out" run was not discuss among marpers.
because no one was able to do.
special rule was not defined.
ARE YOU OK??

I little tired. I hate stupid. be wiser

[Chad]

true, there was no special rule defined, so in marp terms 52 is legal, untill there is a 66% vote rule against it.

[Novice]

Defcon=1

true, there was no special rule defined, so in marp terms 52 is legal, untill there is a 66% vote rule against it.

I want another poll.
"vote by who can not do like it" is worthy or not.

I certain. It should be ignored.

[Chad]

Polpos=3

that is a good point, the masses proly can't do (or maybe more importantly don't want to do) the trick have more voting power. But you never know, after more inspection of the trick and figure it's just an opportunity to gain more points they might vote to allow it. Anyways, I think many would rather have a democracy than a dictatorship. Of course i'd rather be communist than capitialist, but hey what am i gunna do? marp is for the most part a democracy, and when in rome do as the romans do.

POLitical POSt
Nationalist 1<<>>9 Nomad

[Mr. Kelly R. Flewin]

[sigh] .. this is almost coming off like a trolling.. save for attempts at INTELLIGENT discussion... but still...

I say we vote, and just get it over with..


And in regards to "OUT" in Outrun... ugh... you know... never mind.. I won't even get into what a basic definition of trying to out run someone is... since then it will be just argued that that's not what's meant in the game.

Instead of everyone freaking over the definition... how about this.. until someone talks to someone who helped MAKE the bloody game... QUIT ASSUMING THAT YOU'RE IDEA IS CORRECT... Because though it MAY be... it may ALSO NOT be....

I am sure for the most part, people are willing to eat a helping of humble pie if it is so deserved.


Kelly
[Who knows that people will not let this thread die [like a certain other one] but wishes this phpbb had an option to blackout threads when viewing...

[LN2]

Defcon=2
BLAH..........
still discuss among the guys who worthless to discuss?? STOP THAT.

Would you stop being an arrogant asshole and treating everyone like shit please? I think the fact you treat everyone as you do does not help people support your case Novice. In fact I'd bet some would vote to ban the technique simply cuz they don't like you cuz you have treated them like crap calling them stupid etc. even if they wanted to be allowed to use the trick.

Grow up.

My reply wasn't to you anyway Novice. It was to the suggestion a separate Outrun MARP category be made that allows the trick for the score. I replied saying how if you made that special record category for that 1 game then you would have to do it for 500+ others that also have tricks etc. It isn't a solution. We don't need 2 Outrun records where 1 is playing normal and the other using the trick. With 3 different sets that's 3 more records you are adding. Decide on how to play and that's it...if it allows the trick that doesn't end my world as it seems it might end yours Novice. I would accept that decision....but likely would never play Outrun again...not that I play it often now. i don't even understand all the controls like what the second button is for. One is for brakes obviously...the other seems to do nothing but I'm sure it has a use.

That is a totally different issue versus if the trick for outrun should be allowed or not. Someone above posted it was banned a couple years ago...although since Outrun has no special rules shown, it wasn't adopted I guess.

Of course you don't see that other issue I was talking about there and decide to trash me again. Well, you have ZERO support from me from now on Novice. I don't deal with people that just treat people like trash.

Even if you are the best Outrun racer in the world I have no respect for it or you now cuz how you treat people. Actually, I'm surprised MARP hasn't banned you from the site.

of course all versions have this FEATURE not bug.
set 1,2,3 turbo out run and out runners. any country/continental/century version.
of course arcade version/sega mark 3/X68K version have this feature,too.

k, first thanks for actually answering the rom set question. You didn't have to answer it like everyone is supposed to already know the answer though.

uuuh, cuz mame is the arcade version. The game rom sets are the dump of the rom chips from the arcade machine...therefore any bugs in the arcade version are automatically in the mame rom set. duH It's also very likely other console systems would just base it off that same code set also so likely end up with the same bug. Odds are in testing none of their guys would race in a manner to find the flaw. It's not anything you normally would do in driving. Why do you call it a feature? Do you really think they wanted you to be able to go offroad(OFFROAD is a different game BTW...this is Outrun, not Offroad!) and maintain top speed?

I have no problem with the fact you can go off the road a little bit here and there to go around traffic or even a tree or sign at times. However, when you do you certainly shouldn't be able to maintain speed running offroad for several seconds at a time.

Blame other skill after do it by YOURSELF.
you just misunderstood the spirit of games.

Yes but I think understanding the spirit of humanity and not treating people like trash is far more important. It's something you obviously don't understand.

And "out" run was not discuss among marpers.
because no one was able to do.
special rule was not defined.
ARE YOU OK??

Yes, I'm fine. You are the one with problems. Well, it certainly has been discussed recently and the way you treat people I hope they do have a poll cuz odds are all that you mistreated will vote against it.

[Francois Daniel]

Soon Phil will not play a lot any more, as he will be VERY VERY busy with his twins

Félicitations, Phil

Francois

[Francois Daniel]

my first play already has gear trick. because this game is "OUT" run.

The only one who can affirm that is not you but Yu Suzuki. And never I see this great creator say that. But, if you have a Yu Suzuki paper where he say that, please show me. I'm interested.

Francois

[Novice]

Defcon=1

my first play already has gear trick. because this game is "OUT" run.

The only one who can affirm that is not you but Yu Suzuki. And never I see this great creator say that. But, if you have a Yu Suzuki paper where he say that, please show me. I'm interested.
Francois

This game was not made by Yu Suzuki but the outrun section of SEGA.
All sequels and all versions has this feature intentionally.
do you want another words?

How many times did I say??

Open your mouth AFTER YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DO IT!!

anysome voting/poll begins.
I want the gentle attitude for anyone who can not do it.
to see is not always same as to do.

[QRS]

*sigh*... You can do it Hisa, and I can do it.. do you think that you and I are the only ones that can?

Just go ahead and vote and leave this thread shall we?

Cheers

[Francois Daniel]

Defcon=1
[Open your mouth AFTER YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DO IT!!
.

Hey ! Don't shout !

So, you don't admit discussion ! Say that is a dictatorial attitude. For you, if I don't able to make one thing, i'm not allow to discuss of this thing. I'm not the right to have an opinion ? What the hell ! Who are you to say that ? I'm editor in video games magazine and my work is game testing since 12 years. It's my work to have opinion !

Beside all here know that Yu Suzuki is one of the guys who made the game, and if we're wrong, only those who made the game knows what exactly the spirit of the game is. Players can have ideas of this spirit but can also be in the error. Prove what you said by Sega's press pack (or anything else) who said the same.

Francois

[Novice]

DEFCON= 4

Defcon=1
[Open your mouth AFTER YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DO IT!!
.

Hey ! Don't shout !

So, you don't admit discussion !

Discussion should be done by who has enough worth to do.
To see is not always to do.
the guy who DONOT understand about trick cannot(=should not) discuss
about the trick.

reasonable opinion is not it?

[Francois Daniel]

DEFCON= 4

Defcon=1
[Open your mouth AFTER YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DO IT!!
.

Hey ! Don't shout !

So, you don't admit discussion !

Discussion should be done by who has enough worth to do.
To see is not always to do.
the guy who DONOT understand about trick cannot(=should not) discuss
about the trick.

reasonable opinion is not it?

Schmeul = 1 google plex

I never seen a guy so arrogant than you ! Incredible! As you don't want have a reasonable discuss, I prefer never discuss with you now.

Last message here for me

Francois

[Novice]

DEFCON=1(0 is more suitable)

Schmeul = 1 google plex

I never seen a guy so arrogant than you ! Incredible! As you don't want have a reasonable discuss, I prefer never discuss with you now.

Last message here for me

Francois

Arrogant??
Very Right logic sometimes seemed arrogant.
Do not worry. I want discuss who have enouth worth.
Reasonable descuss MUST BE DONE BY reasonable member.
you are "OUT OF THE QUESTION."

it is my Last message for francois, too.


Blah..... I want your trial rather than LOSER's words.
BUT ALL PEOPLE WHO VOTES TO "BAN" only blame other's trick.
they should be ignored.
millions of NO-SKILL,NO-KNOWLEDGE,NO-EFFORT guys opinion is not worth 1 know-it-well.
not my opinion. the fact.

1 million guy who against the trick can not do anything.
CAN you make something worth to see?
Just only blaming.
Can you enjoy?? congratulations!!!